Multiple simultaneous victories?

[Omanes Alexandrapolites]

I think that for the Short Campaign and Long Campaign dual victory scenario, the victory corresponding to the campaign victory conditions being played will be shown.

If this is correct, then if the Long Campaign was selected, the Long Campaign Victory would be shown. If the Short Campaign was selected, the Short Campaign victory would be shown. The Long Campaign victory conditions are used if the player chooses to carry on after loosing or winning the Short Campaign (if it were selected) so, in that case, the Long Campaign victory would be displayed.

The only complication is what happens if the player is playing the short campaign and chooses to continue. In that case, I'm tempted to presume that the Long Campaign victory message is shown immediately after the choice to carry on is selected.

Don't quote me on that though - it's just my presumptions of how it works.

As for conquering the map, I'd guess that you'd first get the long campaign victory message and, if you choose to continue, the map conquest message.

That I'm even less certain about though.

[Barry]

This would be hard to try as you would have to do a short campaign but whilst you were still conquering Europe, Egypt could have their victory conditions resulting in a loss for you.

[Praetor Rick]

This would be hard to try as you would have to do a short campaign but whilst you were still conquering Europe, Egypt could have their victory conditions resulting in a loss for you.

True, it wouldn't be easy at all. You'd definately have to spend a great deal of time acting as a "spoiler" for some of the typically dominant factions.

The trick is to take down whichever "big dog" player is close to you quickly, and then gut the other posthaste. If you can stop the three Roman factions and Egypt from winning the game, usually nobody else is a problem. Other than those, the typical power player only has maybe 10 provinces, so it doesn't matter who you eliminate. It's only the Romans and Egypt who tend to be big enough that making sure their short campaign enemies stay alive is an issue.

[Quirinus]

While, at the same time, making sure you don't kill the faction you're supposed to kill too prematurely. I'd imagine that at one point you might even have to help out a faction against some other aggressor.

[Praetor Rick]

While, at the same time, making sure you don't kill the faction you're supposed to kill too prematurely. I'd imagine that at one point you might even have to help out a faction against some other aggressor.

Well, you have to get your short victory prey to settle down in Rome. Once you've done that, since you almost certainly have the rest of Italy, your short victory prey is about as safe as it's possible to be. At least until you decide to obliterate them and win the game.

The Gauls definately have it easiest, since their short victory prey faction *STARTS* in Rome.

[Flying Pig]

Is it even possible? I mean, to win the short campaign you have to have selected the short campaign box, so it ignores the long victory conditions, no?

[Praetor Rick]

Is it even possible? I mean, to win the short campaign you have to have selected the short campaign box, so it ignores the long victory conditions, no?

If you continue after winning or losing a short victory, you can then win a long victory by holding 50 provinces including Rome. And short or long, if you continue until you've conquered everything, you get the total domination message.

There's no way to know without testing whether short victory turns off the long victory conditions or whether it just turns on the short victory conditions - unless you go out of your way, you probably won't win a long victory without either winning or losing the short campaign. It is quite plain that you cannot win a short victory in a long campaign, since you will usually plow through your short campaign objectives on the way to 50 provinces and ruling Rome.