Why Nerf Baktria?

[Elmetiacos]

It wouldn't be so bad if the cities which had been wickedly stolen from their rightful Baktrian owners had gone to the Eleutheroi, but instead they're now Seleucid, which means that at the start you have a choice between immediately declaring war yourself or disbanding your army and going click-wait, click-wait, click-wait, like playing Hayasdan in v.0.6, until you have a big enough pile of money to do what you want.

[General Appo]

Or you can just recruit a spy and use the two you know got to make some Seleukid towns rebel. In 5 years I got 4 towns to rebel, making them easy prey for me. Then I focused on the Indian provinces and the Saka, and I only recently had to go to war with the Seleukids, by which time my empire almost rivalled theirs, especially with all their armies in the Levant and Asia Minor. Those backwater provinces were easy pickings for my Cat´s, though I did see an Seleukid FM with the Intrigued by Cataphracts trait, fortunately I killed him before he could set his plans in motion. Baktria is not all that much harder then in 1.0, and a lot more fun.

[Elmetiacos]

Or you can just recruit a spy and use the two you know got to make some Seleukid towns rebel. In 5 years I got 4 towns to rebel, making them easy prey for me.

People have mentioned spies starting revolts, but how do you do that? Do spies cause revolts simply by standing next to cities or is there some other method?

[anubis88]

People have mentioned spies starting revolts, but how do you do that? Do spies cause revolts simply by standing next to cities or is there some other method?

A spy in a city will reduce public order- starting revolts

[HFox]

Multiple spies will increase the effect as will the spies experience.....

[Elmetiacos]

Okay, thanks - the spies are doing their work, but in the larger towns the Seleucids are just piling in bigger and bigger armies to crush any revolt. Pahlava attacked them at the start and I broke my alliance with AS. All I can do now, of course, is click-wait, click-wait, click-wait until I can fund an army large enough to take one of these rebel towns...

[NeoSpartan]

well I guess this anwers the question as to what faction I should play next I mean after classes

[General Appo]

Why did you break your alliance with the Sele´s? They´ll just attack you then, while the Pahlavans won´t be able to attack you for centuries. Trust me, two spy´s is enough to cause a revolt in several Seleukid towns, at least in my experience.

[Eduorius]

Multiple spies will increase the effect as will the spies experience.....

Total War games are easy to play but you need a life to master all the stuff. Thanks for the nice tip.

[konny]

Baktria is fine with one town. Take Kophen, it is an easy prey. Than wait for the two towns, by all rights yours but illagly occupied by the Seleucid imperialists, to rebell (help it with spies). Take them, and afterwards go for the Grey Death (they will attack you sooner or later anyways). Focus on regional troops because you share regional barracks with the Seleucids.....

.....and pray that the red scum leaves you alone, otherwise you'll learn that your FM are absolutly useless against these steppe tanks.

[abou]

It wouldn't be so bad if the cities which had been wickedly stolen from their rightful Baktrian owners had gone to the Eleutheroi, but instead they're now Seleucid, which means that at the start you have a choice between immediately declaring war yourself or disbanding your army and going click-wait, click-wait, click-wait, like playing Hayasdan in v.0.6, until you have a big enough pile of money to do what you want.

What the hell are you talking about? What do you mean gone to the Eleutheroi?

I hope you have some evidence to back up such high claims.

[Teleklos Archelaou]

It wouldn't be so bad if the cities which had been wickedly stolen from their rightful Baktrian owners had gone to the Eleutheroi, but instead they're now Seleucid, which means that at the start you have a choice between immediately declaring war yourself or disbanding your army and going click-wait, click-wait, click-wait, like playing Hayasdan in v.0.6, until you have a big enough pile of money to do what you want.

And we should make them more powerful although we have reason to believe they should not be represented that way (if we want to make it accurate)? We didn't just do it to make it harder for them - we made the change because we thought it more accurately represented the situation at the time. The seleucids will generally lose one or two of those provinces within a year or two anyway, especially if you send a spy there.

[Elmetiacos]

Grrrmph... conspiracy of Baktria-haters... obviously the EB Team have been paid in Tocharian gold...