Is historical discussion of Roman equipment off limits?

[mucky305]

Is historical discussion of roman equipment off limits here as those threads tend to turn into "why isn't such and such in EB"? Just want to check before I start one.

[Mediolanicus]

Nothing is off limits here.

Just be warned that most, if not all, EB members are tired of saying that the lorica segmenta armour isn't in the game because it was used in the 1st century AD at the earliest - according to archeological finds - and thus outside of the game's timeframe.

[Ayce]

No, it's not off limits, I think you just saw the joke LS threads.

[QuintusSertorius]

Nothing is off limits here.

Just be warned that most, if not all, EB members are tired of saying that the lorica segmenta armour isn't in the game because it was used in the 1st century AD at the earliest - according to archeological finds - and thus outside of the game's timeframe.

Not only that, but it co-existed with the lorica hamata, and was eventually phased out because the latter was cheaper and already in massive supply.

[mucky305]

Thanks! I just didn't want to get in any flame war. The way I see it, I wouldn't complain about LS not being in the game even if it was historically accurate (I know it isn't) because:

1. EB is FREE!
2. It's great fun to play with tons of great content and well...I didn't pay anything for it aka it's FREE!
3. The EB team could put pink bunnies with Interceptor body armor and M240 machine guns (it's there mod anyway) and I wouldn't care because I would just not install the mod and even if I did, I didn't pay anything for it.

Thanks again!

[MarcusAureliusAntoninus]

Any discussion is fine.

The things that annoy the team are when someone brings something up, the team says it won't be in the game (for whatever reasons), and the person just won't drop it.

It is also annoying when someone says something like, "X equiptment is wrong. Change it now." When pointing out any mistake by anyone (real or perceived) it is never wise to offend the person. An attack automatically forces the responder to be defensive.

[Dhampir]

Speaking of discussions of Roman equipment...

What are the odds that in EB2 we could see a faction that are alien invaders with super armor and heat-ray weapons and three legged robot tanks... but germs on Earth kill them quickly so to win a battle you have to rout the enemy in like 30 seconds or else all your soldiers die?

It's totally a unique concept and in no way is transporting a rather campy scifi novel written in 1898 into a setting of antiquity...

[Centurion Crastinus]

I have always wondered if Lorica Hamata and Lorica Segmentata could have been used at the same time in the same legion.

[Watchman]

Of course. Add squamata to the list while you're at it.

[Uticensis]

Speaking of discussions of Roman equipment...

What are the odds that in EB2 we could see a faction that are alien invaders with super armor and heat-ray weapons and three legged robot tanks... but germs on Earth kill them quickly so to win a battle you have to rout the enemy in like 30 seconds or else all your soldiers die?

Only if the aliens wear Lorica Segmentata.

[Apgad]

I have always wondered if Lorica Hamata and Lorica Segmentata could have been used at the same time in the same legion.

Following on from this, from what I've read of previous discussions LS was used a bit (certainly not exclusively) towards the end of the EB timeframe. Now, as EB2.0 can have multiple skins for each unit, I wonder if the odd late period imperial legionary might have LS, in amongst the rest of the LH-clad units...

That wouldn't be historically inaccurate, surely?

Disclaimer - I don't really care for LS, just wondered about using M2TW capabilities to depict a range of likely armor types...

[cmacq]

Of course. Add squamata to the list while you're at it.

scaligh...

[Ludens]

Following on from this, from what I've read of previous discussions LS was used a bit (certainly not exclusively) towards the end of the EB timeframe. Now, as EB2.0 can have multiple skins for each unit, I wonder if the odd late period imperial legionary might have LS, in amongst the rest of the LH-clad units...

It certainly is possible, but if the last long thread on LS is anything to go by, it won't happen.

I'd like to add that LS was never used exclusively. Even at it's peak, most legionairs would still use LH.

[mucky305]

I've been told that it's even possible that LS was ceremonial or a kind of dress armour rather than an actual battlefield armor. Say the Emperor was visiting and the soldiers wanted to look especially impressive, slap on really shiny armor. It would also help explain the easy storage factor of LS (storage would only really be important if it wasn't worn much, right?) and finds of this type in locations that were thought to be exclusively stations for auxilary troops. But then again, the intimidation factor of seeing 10,000 soldiers marching toward you in perfect order clad in shiny metal would probably be significant. Thoughts?

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Following on from this, from what I've read of previous discussions LS was used a bit (certainly not exclusively) towards the end of the EB timeframe. Now, as EB2.0 can have multiple skins for each unit, I wonder if the odd late period imperial legionary might have LS, in amongst the rest of the LH-clad units...

That wouldn't be historically inaccurate, surely?

The likelyhood of this being done is statistically 0. In any case, you'd end up with roughly 25% of the legionaries in LS, which would be inaccurate.