Are these...

[Gebeleisis]

the ex agema torakitai (sp) from AS?

i think they looked radical!
from what version were them and why did you change the skin?

Geb

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

That would seem to be the 0.8x version, and it was changed for the same reason anything in EB is changed.

[abou]

the ex agema torakitai (sp) from AS?

i think they looked radical!
from what version were them and why did you change the skin?

Geb

The original model was changed to accommodate the heavily armored Irish and Iberian units. The Hellenistic historians wanted to bring the old version back at some point and now with the latter two being dropped this should be easy.

Essentially, wait and see.

[hoom]

Did the unpublished dig where the veiled guy was supposed to be found ever get published?
I got the impression the Dosidataskelafragilistix went more or less hand in hand with the veiled Seleucid Agema

I actually liked the look of the newer model myself

[Gebeleisis]

The original model was changed to accommodate the heavily armored Irish and Iberian units. The Hellenistic historians wanted to bring the old version back at some point and now with the latter two being dropped this should be easy.

Essentially, wait and see.

thx for the answer!
and btw,why the latter 2 have been excuded? o0

[abou]

Ask and ye shall receive.

thx for the answer!
and btw,why the latter 2 have been excuded? o0

The person who originally did the research for the two other tank infantry left about a year and a half ago. He based them on some literary evidence based both on Greek writings from Emporion (for the Vasci) and Irish myth as well as a piece of armor held somewhere in an Irish museum. Unfortunately, due to the bad habits the team has for keeping track of things we can't confirm the work of the former historian. As such, we had to drop them.

You can get away with being lazy when you have six Hellenistic historians, but with one or two Celtic historians it doesn't always work. We will be much better about this in EB2, however, as the team has developed an internal Wiki for keeping track of things.

Oddly enough, I did find the original post for the hammer unit...

[Gebeleisis]

can you post that or pm me the post :)?
im veery intereted

[abou]

Compiled by Khelvan, although I believe our long lost Celtic historian (Ranika) did the research.

Posted way back on 06-08-200.

Goidilic hammers:

Two-handed hammers have been found in numerous burials; For instance, three two-handed hammers were found in a single burial north of Wexford in Ireland. The most prolific burial was was found in the burial of a Brehon judge/druid south of Sligo, where in were found numerous other objects.

The Ulster Cycles and the Book of the Dun Cow mention the hammer as the favored weapon of the Volunts, Carrants, and Bannats. Feinachas (the Gaelic laws) also make mention of hammers, and who is allowed to use them (only those deemed champions by their chieftains; only cheiftains and higher arras may purchase or order production of hammers). The cycle Toighal mentions the usage of two-handed hammers (modified work hammers, actually) as a common method of countering armor from foreign invaders (usually Britons, with chain or bronze plate).

A few stories about Cu Chullain, including some found in the Tain, have him training with a two-handed hammer as well as a sword. He had trained to fight with it under a female teacher; it was a fairly common Goidilic weapon. The poem 'Dun da nFerg' states plainly that the hammer (both one and two-handed) was the favored weapon of devoted followers of the Dagda (as he used a large hammer). Dun da nFerg is a poem about an attack on a fortress (the fort of Ferg), beset by a number of tribes from Britain, and compares them to Gallic invaders. It mentions what weapons both sides used (and talks briefly about the 'foreigners from the south sea'; Gaul). It mentions both two-handed hammers and two-handed swords, in addition to many other weapons. Every weapon and piece of armor mentioned, we've at least found chunks of in battlefield excavations (particularly one east of Gort, south of Loughrea, near the Burren), so clearly the weapons exist. According to it, while the hammers and swords were rare, they weren't THAT rare.

[abou]

Did the unpublished dig where the veiled guy was supposed to be found ever get published?

No idea. It might be in an archaeological report or in the basement of a museum in Syria. When I talk to our historian who found it I'll bring it up.

EDIT: Thank you kindly, MAA.

[Gebeleisis]

thank you very much!