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    Quote Originally Posted by Beirut
    Anything that promotes environmentalism and conservation is good. After all, what's the downside, fresh air?
    Beirut asking Tosa if he can work full-time at the .org because he's out of a job?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vladimir
    Beirut asking Tosa if he can work full-time at the .org because he's out of a job?
    Trees are a renewable resource that if properly managed will last as long as the Earth does. Hence, my job is secure if I do it with respect for the environment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beirut
    Trees are a renewable resource that if properly managed will last as long as the Earth does. Hence, my job is secure if I do it with respect for the environment.
    Sorry, gotta stop treating forums like a conversation and put more in my posts.

    No it's not.

    The problem is that you think your view of environmentalism is the one that will be enforced. When you state "Anything that promotes environmentalism and conservation is good" I have a problem. Clearly it's not a though out statement. "Anything" is a lot. An example would be a problem a lot of national parks have between environmentalists and firefighting/wildlife managers. The latter attempt to take a responsible logging approach while the former don't want it touched at all. Quite often the enviros win and everyone else looses.

    "Anything" includes you loosing your job (I believe that's your full-time occupation, correct? Besides pleasing She-Who-Must-Be-Obeyed of course)
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    Reinvent the British and you get a global finance center, edible food and better service. Reinvent the French and you may just get more Germans.
    Quote Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars
    How do you motivate your employees? Waterboarding, of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vladimir
    The problem is that you think your view of environmentalism is the one that will be enforced.
    I think nothing of the sort. I think only that my view of environmetalism will be enforce by me.

    [QUOTE=Vladimir]When you state "Anything that promotes environmentalism and conservation is good" I have a problem. Clearly it's not a though out statement. "Anything" is a lot. An example would be a problem a lot of national parks have between environmentalists and firefighting/wildlife managers. The latter attempt to take a responsible logging approach while the former don't want it touched at all. Quite often the enviros win and everyone else loses.[QUOTE=Vladimir]

    I see your point that extremism is, well, extreme, but after decades (if not centuries) of morbidly bad environmental behaviour, a few instances of over the top tree-hugging isn't going to cause our fat first-world existence to come to a screaching halt.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vladimir
    "Anything" includes you loosing your job (I believe that's your full-time occupation, correct? Besides pleasing She-Who-Must-Be-Obeyed of course)
    I am subject to environmental standards, municipal and provincial, when cutting trees and there are several instances where I do not do work that is legal because, though legal, it would be stupid. We've walked off several jobs and refused others outright.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beirut
    I am subject to environmental standards, municipal and provincial, when cutting trees and there are several instances where I do not do work that is legal because, though legal, it would be stupid. We've walked off several jobs and refused others outright.
    Good story, you may have heard of it. Some guy with too much money and time wants to cut down some trees because they obscured his view of the Potomac river. Cared so much about it that he petitioned the government and won. Later he petitioned the government to build a retaining wall along his property because the river was eroding it.

    I don't think he won that one. Error on the side of the tree I guess.

    Last edited by Vladimir; 04-21-2008 at 21:47.


    Reinvent the British and you get a global finance center, edible food and better service. Reinvent the French and you may just get more Germans.
    Quote Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars
    How do you motivate your employees? Waterboarding, of course.
    Ik hou van ferme grieten en dikke pinten
    Down with dried flowers!
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