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Thread: Galatikoi Klerouchoi are gods!
Xehh II 07:07 04-21-2008
Why are they so super Gaesatae powferful? I can frequently get 600-700 kills while only losing 5-10 men.

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Ibrahim 07:09 04-21-2008
because you use them well..
hey, a weapon (or regiment) is as good as the user.

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Xehh II 09:24 04-21-2008
I just use them as normal heavy infantry, nothing special, just point them in the direction of the enemy and make them attack.

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/Bean\ 11:42 04-21-2008
Remind me...what are Galatikoi Klerouchoi?

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Kongeslask 11:47 04-21-2008
Elite heavy infantry representing the Celtic military settlers of the Ptolemaioi.

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/Bean\ 11:58 04-21-2008
the galatian heavy spearmen or something?

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Kongeslask 12:01 04-21-2008
No, guys with sword and shields, a bit like later Roman legionares actually.

Picture and description here, near the bottom:
https://www.europabarbarorum.com/fac...ioi_units.html

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/Bean\ 12:04 04-21-2008
oh yeah now i remember lol. Are they really that good? thats impressive

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Elmetiacos 12:11 04-21-2008
Ignore the bit about there being so many Galatians as to change the ethnic composition of Fayyum even 2000 years later, though...

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Watchman 12:28 04-21-2008
Eh, they're just Veteran-grade Celtic shock inf in the usual heavy mail. Neitos with bigger shields basically.

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hoom 12:52 04-21-2008
They are pretty sweet :)
I hate having to face them time & again in the desert wars between Carthage & Ptolomies

About time I had another go at Ptolomies, last time failed miserably against even the Eleutheroi :(

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paullus 19:14 04-21-2008
Originally Posted by Elmetiacos:
Ignore the bit about there being so many Galatians as to change the ethnic composition of Fayyum even 2000 years later, though...
Yeah, you see red- or blonde-headed Egyptians in the Fayyum with greater frequency than you do elsewhere, but there aren't any indicators of specifically northern european genetic markers in the modern Egyptian population. So physically, you might (rarely) see things that make you say "Galatian or Thracian/Balkan descent" based on hair color, skin tone, or facial structure, but genetically, its invisible. Shoot, southern European markers are practically invisible. There were never more than several thousand Galatians in Egypt, among a population estimated to be about 7 million. Less than 1 in 100,000 is not going to have a major genetic impact.

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Digby Tatham Warter 19:17 04-21-2008
I have never played them, but I've killed zillions of them, to me there just decent heavy infantry, because they take time to crack, but they have never posed a nasty threat, my Sarissa inf and Thoratiki flank troops hold them until it's cav and Nellie time.

The AI relies on then to much IMO as alot die on pike tips and having no spears means they don't like it up em when heavy cav repeatedly charge.
For super inf (although they cost more, if that bothers you) I prefer Elite spear troops, because their more versatile.

When you kill hundreds of men and only loose five, what type of troops are you killing, and in what type of situation, ie bridge, straight fight, rear attack etc, and what settings, medium battle with fatigue on?

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Xehh II 20:37 04-21-2008
Originally Posted by Digby Tatham Warter:
When you kill hundreds of men and only loose five, what type of troops are you killing, and in what type of situation, ie bridge, straight fight, rear attack etc, and what settings, medium battle with fatigue on?
No matter what the situation they always get the same result.

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Urnamma 20:57 04-21-2008
Originally Posted by paullus:
Yeah, you see red- or blonde-headed Egyptians in the Fayyum with greater frequency than you do elsewhere, but there aren't any indicators of specifically northern european genetic markers in the modern Egyptian population. So physically, you might (rarely) see things that make you say "Galatian or Thracian/Balkan descent" based on hair color, skin tone, or facial structure, but genetically, its invisible. Shoot, southern European markers are practically invisible. There were never more than several thousand Galatians in Egypt, among a population estimated to be about 7 million. Less than 1 in 100,000 is not going to have a major genetic impact.
Mmm, I think the former is what we were going for (seeing a few more northern European phenotypes on occasion, as food for thought).

Let's not make a mountain out of a mole hill ;)

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paullus 21:08 04-21-2008
sure.

and personally i've never had much trouble killing them. they do get produced in numbers that are too large, but that's what'll be great about EB2...we can limit that.

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