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    Default Re: Èlection '08: The good administrator or the ideological comrade?

    In normal politics I would go with #2. Rather a functional system that needs some fixes, than an incompetent mockery of what I belive in.

    Of course if both are so bad that they need to be removed by a coup I rather take the incompetent one...

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    I suppose it depends on your ideaology but i was just thinking for me no.2 guy could be someone like Hitler, now obviously any bumbling idiot who thinks like me would be the obvious choice for me over hitler, unless i guess we were threatened by something worse than hitler.
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    In the current UK political situation I'd go for No.2 since there's no noticable ideological difference between the big parties anymore.

    If we actually had some real options, I'd go for No.1
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleGrizzly
    I suppose it depends on your ideaology but i was just thinking for me no.2 guy could be someone like Hitler, now obviously any bumbling idiot who thinks like me would be the obvious choice for me over hitler, unless i guess we were threatened by something worse than hitler.
    Yeah Hitler fits the bill for #2.

    Robert Mugabe would be a good example of #1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore

    Robert Mugabe would be a good example of #1.
    Are you telling us that he doesn't get things done or that he's your ideological counterpart?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vladimir
    Are you telling us that he doesn't get things done or that he's your ideological counterpart?
    Well he's utterly incompetent, but because he's seen as a freedom fighter etc, a lot of people still like him...

    Take his land reform, for example. A lot of people would agree with the principle. However, the way he went through with it was a complete mess...
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    What, the intimidation, siezures, putting miners on the best land in Southern Africa? Besides, it did exactly what it was meant to, it kept him in power.

    "Bob" is another version of 2. I'd vote one, if he's completely incompetant he won't have any effect at all, ergo nothing will get much worse. He'd be replaced by someone more competant from his own party over here anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore
    Well he's utterly incompetent, but because he's seen as a freedom fighter etc, a lot of people still like him...

    Take his land reform, for example. A lot of people would agree with the principle. However, the way he went through with it was a complete mess...
    That's the issue with #2. It's not merely that one would disagree with him but because one thinks that their political ideology is the best for country and self. Why would you choose #2 if you believed he would utterly ruin your country?

    As someone else said though, times of crisis and war are different.

    I say this from an American view which believes that government is a necessary evil of sorts. If I was Russian I doubt I'd have the same view.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleGrizzly
    I suppose it depends on your ideaology but i was just thinking for me no.2 guy could be someone like Hitler, now obviously any bumbling idiot who thinks like me would be the obvious choice for me over hitler, unless i guess we were threatened by something worse than hitler.
    Sounds more like Trotsky vs. Stalin.

    I pick Stalin

    EDIT: Actually, hmm...
    Last edited by Craterus; 04-21-2008 at 22:35.

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    Probably #2 here for me since #1 will make such made mistakes that your beliefs will end up being mocked and probably won't be able to remain as a popular one until quite a long time off into the future
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    Default Re: Èlection '08: The good administrator or the ideological comrade?

    Quote Originally Posted by Craterus
    Sounds more like Trotsky vs. Stalin.

    I pick Stalin

    EDIT: Actually, hmm...
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