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    Quote Originally Posted by TuffStuffMcGruff
    Economy isn't really a Christian concern unless it alleviates hunger, disease and despair.

    the old adage "give a fish" vs "teach to fish". Christians should do both.
    No idea where you're going with that one. Point being that ones view on human rights [theoretically] got nothing do with whether one prefer a state with much control over the economy or one with little.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viking
    No idea where you're going with that one. Point being that ones view on human rights [theoretically] got nothing do with whether one prefer a state with much control over the economy or one with little.
    The left-right scale contains slightly more things than that. Besides, state control becomes quite a poor meassurement when you consider that the least state controled economies are in the middle...

    If you're really going for the original scale than it's conservative (right)-radical/progressive (left).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironside
    The left-right scale contains slightly more things than that. Besides, state control becomes quite a poor measurement when you consider that the least state controlled economies are in the middle...

    If you're really going for the original scale than it's conservative (right)-radical/progressive (left).
    I'm not at all going for any original scale. Being pro human rights doesn't really conflict with anything but authoritarianism.

    state control becomes quite a poor measurement when you consider that the least state controlled economies are in the middle...
    Please elaborate why it has to be so.
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    Well I wish this Christian Left would speak out more, the US and its religious right is developing a pretty unhealthy reputation over here in the UK and is letting the country slip into some sort of horrible Republican stereotype.

    @TuffStuff: You support the Republicans? Oh well, after we held the front against abortion in those two threads. You'll need to forgive me but I am pretty left-wing orientated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caledonian Rhyfelwyr
    Well I wish this Christian Left would speak out more, the US and its religious right is developing a pretty unhealthy reputation over here in the UK and is letting the country slip into some sort of horrible Republican stereotype.

    @TuffStuff: You support the Republicans? Oh well, after we held the front against abortion in those two threads. You'll need to forgive me but I am pretty left-wing orientated.
    I wish the Christian left spoke out more too. If they did, then I wouldn't have as much of an issue with the democratic party. It would be nice to have a choice in the matter.
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    It's because the Republican party is the only one that has any values, and opposes things like the legal genocide of babies. Which is the most grievous issue there is and therefore easily must trump any other issue.

    So Christians have to support the Republican party, even though as the OP states, the Republican party has it wrong on issues of things like having compassion for and helping the poor.

    If there was another major party that had values and had a chance of taking power, I'm sure Christians would support that. The Republican party is simply the "least worst" of the available choices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Navaros
    It's because the Republican party is the only one that has any values, and opposes things like the legal genocide of babies. Which is the most grievous issue there is and therefore easily must trump any other issue.

    So Christians have to support the Republican party, even though as the OP states, the Republican party has it wrong on issues of things like having compassion for and helping the poor.

    If there was another major party that had values and had a chance of taking power, I'm sure Christians would support that. The Republican party is simply the "least worst" of the available choices.
    There were three states that just replaced Republicans with pro-life, anti-gay marriage democrats. That's what I like to see.

    If we can trend this way, maybe a reasonable democratic party is making a comeback. If that is the case, I would abandon the G.O.P. to the wolves until they start picking charismatic, decent people with leadership skills - as opposed to these corrupt and disingenuous fogies.

    It is better to switch sides when the trend changes - but without changing core-principles. Democrat and Republican means nothing. They are empty vessels to be filled with competing good and bad ideological concepts. Democrats have numerous good ones. Republicans have the more important ones as far as i'm concerned. As soon as the balance changes (as it seems to be doing), I will change. You won't see me defending a party full of Giulianis, Bloombergs, Schwarzeneggers, Fossellas, Craigs, Specters, etc.

    I don't really need to "change", as I am a conservative, not a Republican. If progressivism didn't have that "slash and burn all tradition" angle, I'd consider myself a progressive as well.
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