What a pathetic stooge

[Tribesman]

Very shortsighted. They reason they resorted to suicide bombing is that they can't dislodge Israel by military force. These people are in it for the long haul. A decade is nothing.

Hold on there Vlad , wasn't Fatah big into the old suicide bombing thing ?didn't they want the destuction of Israel ?
They were talked to weren't they , and since they lost the democratic election they really have been flavour of the month for the democracy loving freedom mongers .

[LittleGrizzly]

Very shortsighted. They reason they resorted to suicide bombing is that they can't dislodge Israel by military force. These people are in it for the long haul. A decade is nothing.

Very shortsighted. The reason the IRA started bombing is that they can't dislodge Britian by military force. These people are in it for the long haul. A decade is nothing.

Well thankfully someone didn't think that and negotiations were allowed to continue with the IRA

[Tribesman]

Oh dear , Bush is a pathetic stooge who has just pissed away all his credibility .
Yes indeed , he met the leader of a terrorist group and made some rather upbeat comments about what he had achieved in the talks and how it was going to be all OK .
Straight away Abbas contradicted everything he had said and said no progress was made and the sticking points are the same as they have always been and the US will not address them , also saying that when in the past they have said they will address them have done absolutely nothing about them .

So now then , is it worse when someone contradicts the "leader of the free worldTM" who is acting in his official capacity for his country or when someone contradicts an ex-leader who is acting as an individual ?

[Adrian II]

Oh dear , Bush is a pathetic stooge who has just pissed away all his credibility.

You don't say.

So now then , is it worse when someone contradicts the "leader of the free worldTM" who is acting in his official capacity for his country or when someone contradicts an ex-leader who is acting as an individual ?

That's not a very tough one, Mr Tribesman. I'd say the first one since both Israelis and Arabs nowadays call him a liar to his face, which, as a matter of fact, he is - and not a very good one either, which makes him even less reliable as a partner in an sort of negotiation. All politicians are liars and have to be liars if they want to be successful, but when a politician's lying is at odds with the very negociations he is conducting and the very aims he pretends to be pursuing, I would say he is a total failure.
Hm, yes, I think that about sums it up.