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    As Baktria I've just taken Alex Eschate from the Saka after it revolted away from AS. I occupied it, but it was really hard to subdue at first and when I looked at the info screen I'm getting a 30% culture penalty. This seems strange, since this province is a Baktrian homeland province. How can a homeland city be giving me a culture penalty?
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    Well what do you think would Saka influences as well as Seleukid ones do to the loyalties of a city?

    Any 'foreign' building gives you a culture penalty of some level AFAIK.
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    To be fair, the description only says that the Baktrian people consider this one of its core provinces, part of its homeland. It never says the natives agree.
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    Hehe, true I suppose. I thought I'd knocked down all the foreign buildings that mattered, but there is the "Saka Reforms - becoming Indo-Saka" one that can't be demolished.
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    This is a hard-coded RTW effect that will diminish over time as you construct your own buildings.

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    Core building is the most important thing, but keeping a good spy there will also help.

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    honestly i wish we could get more culture penalty in some homeland regions. that might make the nile valley a little less hunky-dory, for example.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paullus
    honestly i wish we could get more culture penalty in some homeland regions. that might make the nile valley a little less hunky-dory, for example.
    What about a non-destructible building that causes unrest?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olaf The Great
    What about a non-destructible building that causes unrest?
    It will only cause cultural unrest if the town starts out in someone elses hand (as all starting buildings are always the culture of the owning faction).


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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcusAureliusAntoninus
    It will only cause cultural unrest if the town starts out in someone elses hand (as all starting buildings are always the culture of the owning faction).
    Mmmmh... what about an undestroyable building that gives the penalty to everyone but gives an equal bonus to the starting faction if they own the settlement?
    I've seen some of the unique buildings give bonuses to specific factions, so I think this should be possible... never modded buildings though, so I'm not sure.

    Even better, give the penalty to everyone except the starting faction (cleaner solution), but I don't know if this is possible.

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    Whilst it might be your homeland all those other holders would have moved their own people in. Military settlers/veterens etc. I just roleplay it.

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    Building somewhere for a governor to hang out in greatly cut the culture penalty, as well as persuading the inhabitants to remodel their homes in the Greek style.
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    does it just take time for the culture penalty to go down, as more of your people move in? or does it drop when you build specific culture buildings such as the festival buildings or theatres if your the greeks?
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    The culture penalty dropped from 3 to 1 little black and white masks when the governor's mansion was finished. At the same time, the look of town changed from barbarian to Greek on the map. Of course, I'd had it under my control for long enough to build a homeland government plus the mansion, so what ~14 turns? It might have happened anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the Bean
    does it just take time for the culture penalty to go down, as more of your people move in? or does it drop when you build specific culture buildings such as the festival buildings or theatres if your the greeks?
    It will go down when you destroy or upgrade buildings that were built by a different culture.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcusAureliusAntoninus
    It will go down when you destroy or upgrade buildings that were built by a different culture.
    As Elmetiacos implies, the governor's residence is the most important one for culture penalty.
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    Temple buildings are also significant.

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