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    I know we have a severe defect of Easterners here but I would like to ask a question. I've been hearing a lot lately about how Arab culture looks down on manual labor in much the same way as medieval Spaniards did and many Americans do. It is said that Arabs generally prefer management and supervisory roles as they view manual labor as beneath their station.

    Is this true? If so, is it more true in a rigid monarchy like Saudi Arabia? Or is it just too damn hot to pour asphalt over the burning desert sand?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Vladimir
    I know we have a severe defect of Easterners here but I would like to ask a question. I've been hearing a lot lately about how Arab culture looks down on manual labor in much the same way as medieval Spaniards did and many Americans do. It is said that Arabs generally prefer management and supervisory roles as they view manual labor as beneath their station.
    I think you're describing nobility anywhere here....

    Or in modern times, middle class and above. Lazy gits.
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    Hang on, why are the middle classes lazy gits? Or are you one of those that believes unless you get your hands dirty then you haven't done a a days work?

    As someone who was born into a working class background and bettered myself, I can recall plenty of lazy working class gits. Plenty.
    There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.

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    Maybe he's referring to those born into the middle class. They have less of a tendency to want to work their way up out of their comfort(able) zone.


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    Quote Originally Posted by InsaneApache
    Hang on, why are the middle classes lazy gits? Or are you one of those that believes unless you get your hands dirty then you haven't done a a days work?
    Because being middle class generally means you have a management/theoretical type job, which the OP referred to?
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    In that case he's insulting my kids then.
    There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.

    “Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy.”

    To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise.

    "The purpose of a university education for Left / Liberals is to attain all the politically correct attitudes towards minorties, and the financial means to live as far away from them as possible."

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore
    Because being middle class generally means you have a management/theoretical type job, which the OP referred to?
    So you are saying that unless you get your hands mucky then you're a lazy git.
    There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.

    “Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy.”

    To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise.

    "The purpose of a university education for Left / Liberals is to attain all the politically correct attitudes towards minorties, and the financial means to live as far away from them as possible."

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    Quote Originally Posted by InsaneApache
    In that case he's insulting my kids then.
    I'm confident that ol' daddy 'pache will show them the ropes
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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    Quote Originally Posted by InsaneApache
    So you are saying that unless you get your hands mucky then you're a lazy git.
    No, but the OP classed supervision as being lazy...
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    No, not lazy, beneath them.
    There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.

    “Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy.”

    To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise.

    "The purpose of a university education for Left / Liberals is to attain all the politically correct attitudes towards minorties, and the financial means to live as far away from them as possible."

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    Quote Originally Posted by InsaneApache
    No, not lazy, beneath them.
    Well for that I would classify them as bastards... But I can definitely understand reasons such as "worse pay", "don't want to" and "not to my liking".

    But I'll never, ever understand people who takes their car to the workshop and pays for an oil change... That's laziness, plain and simple.
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore
    I'm confident that ol' daddy 'pache will show them the ropes
    So we're back to the Democracy thread? The common man is an idiot but my friends and I aren't common men.

    And I REFUSE to pick lettuce for $5.00 an hour. That's like 3 Euros.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vladimir
    So we're back to the Democracy thread? The common man is an idiot but my friends and I aren't common men.

    And I REFUSE to pick lettuce for $5.00 an hour. That's like 3 Euros.
    Huh?
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    Default Re: Arab Lazyness, Bad as us Americans?

    My Dad worked himself up from the working class, to well... above middle class. He never once shied away from helping out his employees on construction projects, and would 90% of the time be found helping them rather than doing paperwork (which he usually left me to do) . But I agree he was the exception rather than the rule, and he taught me and my older brother the same ethic. I would rather chop my own wood than drive down to the Mill to pick some up and pay for it, I always do my own Fixes at the house and never hire anyone to do it (unless it's something in the plumbing or an electrical problem).

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore
    Huh?
    You were saying that middle class people are lazy except for your friends who are middle class. I wonder what "class" you and your family fall under?

    That's how it works, us vs. them and etc. The average person is an idiot but no one ever perceives themselves as average. That's kind of the point of the original post: Arabs are lazy unlike us tough working [Nationality].


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vladimir
    You were saying that middle class people are lazy except for your friends who are middle class. I wonder what "class" you and your family fall under?
    I'm not middle class.

    And the "Lazy gits" in my first post wasn't something I meant, that was stolen from the first post...
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore
    But I'll never, ever understand people who takes their car to the workshop and pays for an oil change... That's laziness, plain and simple.
    <cancels appointment at the garage...>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vladimir
    I know we have a severe defect of Easterners here but I would like to ask a question. I've been hearing a lot lately about how Arab culture looks down on manual labor in much the same way as medieval Spaniards did and many Americans do. It is said that Arabs generally prefer management and supervisory roles as they view manual labor as beneath their station.

    Is this true? If so, is it more true in a rigid monarchy like Saudi Arabia? Or is it just too damn hot to pour asphalt over the burning desert sand?



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    Everyone knows Scots are the hardest workers in the world.

    Or we would be if we weren't all either morbidly obese, chronically malnourished, or collapsing with heart attacks in our 40's.
    At the end of the day politics is just trash compared to the Gospel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrian II


    *awaiting first Arab*
    *holds breath*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vladimir
    *holds breath*

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    *faint echo of ticking clock*
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    This is pretty tense.

    At the end of the day politics is just trash compared to the Gospel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrian II


    *awaiting first Arab*
    I live in Bradford and I like curry. I'm almost a moslem, do I count?
    There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.

    “Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy.”

    To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise.

    "The purpose of a university education for Left / Liberals is to attain all the politically correct attitudes towards minorties, and the financial means to live as far away from them as possible."

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    Quote Originally Posted by InsaneApache
    I live in Bradford and I like curry. I'm almost a moslem, do I count?
    You'll have to do.

    Now then, Mr Muslim, how are the middle classes in Saudi Arabia shaping up these days? Hm?

    Speak up, man!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrian II
    You'll have to do.

    Now then, Mr Muslim, how are the middle classes in Saudi Arabia shaping up these days? Hm?

    Speak up, man!
    I nearly did as well.

    Buggers.
    There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.

    “Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy.”

    To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise.

    "The purpose of a university education for Left / Liberals is to attain all the politically correct attitudes towards minorties, and the financial means to live as far away from them as possible."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tribesman
    Thas nowt loik bein four decades out. Mind when did that ever stop the left.
    There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.

    “Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy.”

    To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise.

    "The purpose of a university education for Left / Liberals is to attain all the politically correct attitudes towards minorties, and the financial means to live as far away from them as possible."

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    In my experience after they show up late they do as little as possible, if they show up at all completily useless. When I worked as a contracter every aplication remotily sounding arab ---> bin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony
    In my experience after they show up late they do as little as possible, if they show up at all completily useless. When I worked as a contracter every aplication remotily sounding arab ---> bin
    !
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