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I know we have a severe defect of Easterners here but I would like to ask a question. I've been hearing a lot lately about how Arab culture looks down on manual labor in much the same way as medieval Spaniards did and many Americans do. It is said that Arabs generally prefer management and supervisory roles as they view manual labor as beneath their station.
Is this true? If so, is it more true in a rigid monarchy like Saudi Arabia? Or is it just too damn hot to pour asphalt over the burning desert sand?
Is this true? If so, is it more true in a rigid monarchy like Saudi Arabia? Or is it just too damn hot to pour asphalt over the burning desert sand?
Originally Posted by Vladimir:
I know we have a severe defect of Easterners here but I would like to ask a question. I've been hearing a lot lately about how Arab culture looks down on manual labor in much the same way as medieval Spaniards did and many Americans do. It is said that Arabs generally prefer management and supervisory roles as they view manual labor as beneath their station.
I think you're describing nobility anywhere here....I know we have a severe defect of Easterners here but I would like to ask a question. I've been hearing a lot lately about how Arab culture looks down on manual labor in much the same way as medieval Spaniards did and many Americans do. It is said that Arabs generally prefer management and supervisory roles as they view manual labor as beneath their station.
Or in modern times, middle class and above. Lazy gits.
Hang on, why are the middle classes lazy gits? Or are you one of those that believes unless you get your hands dirty then you haven't done a a days work?
As someone who was born into a working class background and bettered myself, I can recall plenty of lazy working class gits. Plenty.
As someone who was born into a working class background and bettered myself, I can recall plenty of lazy working class gits. Plenty.
Maybe he's referring to those born into the middle class. They have less of a tendency to want to work their way up out of their comfort(able) zone.
Originally Posted by InsaneApache:
Hang on, why are the middle classes lazy gits? Or are you one of those that believes unless you get your hands dirty then you haven't done a a days work?
Because being middle class generally means you have a management/theoretical type job, which the OP referred to?Hang on, why are the middle classes lazy gits? Or are you one of those that believes unless you get your hands dirty then you haven't done a a days work?
In that case he's insulting my kids then.
Originally Posted by HoreTore:
Because being middle class generally means you have a management/theoretical type job, which the OP referred to?
So you are saying that unless you get your hands mucky then you're a lazy git.Because being middle class generally means you have a management/theoretical type job, which the OP referred to?
Originally Posted by InsaneApache:
In that case he's insulting my kids then.
I'm confident that ol' daddy 'pache will show them the ropes In that case he's insulting my kids then.
Originally Posted by InsaneApache:
So you are saying that unless you get your hands mucky then you're a lazy git.
No, but the OP classed supervision as being lazy...So you are saying that unless you get your hands mucky then you're a lazy git.
No, not lazy, beneath them.
Originally Posted by InsaneApache:
No, not lazy, beneath them.
Well for that I would classify them as bastards... But I can definitely understand reasons such as "worse pay", "don't want to" and "not to my liking".No, not lazy, beneath them.
But I'll never, ever understand people who takes their car to the workshop and pays for an oil change... That's laziness, plain and simple.
Originally Posted by HoreTore:
I'm confident that ol' daddy 'pache will show them the ropes
So we're back to the Democracy thread? The common man is an idiot but my friends and I aren't common men.I'm confident that ol' daddy 'pache will show them the ropes
And I REFUSE to pick lettuce for $5.00 an hour. That's like 3 Euros.
Originally Posted by Vladimir:
So we're back to the Democracy thread? The common man is an idiot but my friends and I aren't common men.
And I REFUSE to pick lettuce for $5.00 an hour. That's like 3 Euros.
Huh?So we're back to the Democracy thread? The common man is an idiot but my friends and I aren't common men.
And I REFUSE to pick lettuce for $5.00 an hour. That's like 3 Euros.
My Dad worked himself up from the working class, to well... above middle class. He never once shied away from helping out his employees on construction projects, and would 90% of the time be found helping them rather than doing paperwork (which he usually left me to do) 
. But I agree he was the exception rather than the rule, and he taught me and my older brother the same ethic. I would rather chop my own wood than drive down to the Mill to pick some up and pay for it, I always do my own Fixes at the house and never hire anyone to do it (unless it's something in the plumbing or an electrical problem).
. But I agree he was the exception rather than the rule, and he taught me and my older brother the same ethic. I would rather chop my own wood than drive down to the Mill to pick some up and pay for it, I always do my own Fixes at the house and never hire anyone to do it (unless it's something in the plumbing or an electrical problem).Originally Posted by HoreTore:
Huh?
You were saying that middle class people are lazy except for your friends who are middle class. I wonder what "class" you and your family fall under?Huh?
That's how it works, us vs. them and etc. The average person is an idiot but no one ever perceives themselves as average. That's kind of the point of the original post: Arabs are lazy unlike us tough working [Nationality].
Originally Posted by Vladimir:
You were saying that middle class people are lazy except for your friends who are middle class. I wonder what "class" you and your family fall under?
I'm not middle class.You were saying that middle class people are lazy except for your friends who are middle class. I wonder what "class" you and your family fall under?
And the "Lazy gits" in my first post wasn't something I meant, that was stolen from the first post...
Originally Posted by HoreTore:
But I'll never, ever understand people who takes their car to the workshop and pays for an oil change... That's laziness, plain and simple.
<cancels appointment at the garage...> But I'll never, ever understand people who takes their car to the workshop and pays for an oil change... That's laziness, plain and simple.
Originally Posted by Vladimir:
I know we have a severe defect of Easterners here but I would like to ask a question. I've been hearing a lot lately about how Arab culture looks down on manual labor in much the same way as medieval Spaniards did and many Americans do. It is said that Arabs generally prefer management and supervisory roles as they view manual labor as beneath their station.
Is this true? If so, is it more true in a rigid monarchy like Saudi Arabia? Or is it just too damn hot to pour asphalt over the burning desert sand?
I know we have a severe defect of Easterners here but I would like to ask a question. I've been hearing a lot lately about how Arab culture looks down on manual labor in much the same way as medieval Spaniards did and many Americans do. It is said that Arabs generally prefer management and supervisory roles as they view manual labor as beneath their station.
Is this true? If so, is it more true in a rigid monarchy like Saudi Arabia? Or is it just too damn hot to pour asphalt over the burning desert sand?
*awaiting first Arab*
Everyone knows Scots are the hardest workers in the world.
Or we would be if we weren't all either morbidly obese, chronically malnourished, or collapsing with heart attacks in our 40's.
Or we would be if we weren't all either morbidly obese, chronically malnourished, or collapsing with heart attacks in our 40's.
Originally Posted by Adrian II:
*awaiting first Arab*
*holds breath* *awaiting first Arab*
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Originally Posted by Vladimir:
*holds breath*
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*faint echo of ticking clock*
This is pretty tense.
Originally Posted by Adrian II:
*awaiting first Arab*
I live in Bradford and I like curry. I'm almost a moslem, do I count? *awaiting first Arab*
Originally Posted by InsaneApache:
I live in Bradford and I like curry. I'm almost a moslem, do I count?
You'll have to do.I live in Bradford and I like curry. I'm almost a moslem, do I count?
Now then, Mr Muslim, how are the middle classes in Saudi Arabia shaping up these days? Hm?
Speak up, man!
Originally Posted by Adrian II:
You'll have to do.
Now then, Mr Muslim, how are the middle classes in Saudi Arabia shaping up these days? Hm?
Speak up, man!
I nearly did as well. You'll have to do.
Now then, Mr Muslim, how are the middle classes in Saudi Arabia shaping up these days? Hm?
Speak up, man!
Buggers.
Thas nowt loik bein four decades out. Mind when did that ever stop the left.
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In my experience after they show up late they do as little as possible, if they show up at all completily useless. When I worked as a contracter every aplication remotily sounding arab ---> bin
Originally Posted by Fragony:
In my experience after they show up late they do as little as possible, if they show up at all completily useless. When I worked as a contracter every aplication remotily sounding arab ---> bin
!In my experience after they show up late they do as little as possible, if they show up at all completily useless. When I worked as a contracter every aplication remotily sounding arab ---> bin
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