A New EB Tavern

[russia almighty]

I CAME IN HER MOUTH,IT WAS A CRISIS, I GAVE HER MY SECRET..... *record screech*


Wrong venue folks. afroman will be here next week to perform for the afroholics here.

[Ibrahim]

[Romano-Dacis]

Alright: were women hotter back then than they are now? Let's list the pros and cons of women back then compared to now.

Positive:
+Less fatty food. Most likely a lot healthier.
+excercised a fair bit, so once again, a lot healthier.
+Since many didn't wash their faces with soap etc. they probably had less acne. A lot of oil we get on our faces is ironically, caused by the soap washing some off. More piles on in hope that you won't be able to wash it all off next time.
+You probably married early, so none of those middle-aged, wrinkled hags.

Negative:
-Poor dentistry.
-Marriage was more the result of family interactions than love, so chances for arranged marriages are higher.
-Worse posture, more likely to have had some deformity due to disease.
-Pretty good chance she would die in childbirth.
-Hormones in food give modern women greater, err, assets...

Neutral:
:They were shorter back then.

Hmm... do they still ship mail-order brides from the past?

[Ibrahim]

no they don't. do you?

anyways is v.1.1 EB playable on mp? I like to battle sometime with one of you.

[Romano-Dacis]

anyways is v.1.1 EB playable on mp? I like to battle sometime with one of you.

I'll only do it if at the time you are high, drunk, and blindfolded...

I'm too afraid of being...

"What, you lost 7,000 argyspides to 500 Pantodapoi!?"

[Ibrahim]

ok all done. shall we fight?
rules: 50000 mani max
no more than 5 guard in infantry (or cata's)

plz use normal size
if possible switch to BI exe (if you don't want to tell me-I'll reset my folder)
you better have an EB 1.1 n trivial script...

[Dhampir]

I bought the soundtrack CD for the Russian radio station in GTA4. I think I'm getting into Russian pop music.

[Emperor Burakuku]

Women... are strange! I don't trust them! How can I trust someone that bleeds every month for 7 days and still survives? And yes, they tend to complicate things. But still... I love them!

@Dhampir: Burn it man! Yes, the CD. It's evil... it's mindcontrol!

[Hooahguy]

wheres that link again? "ibrahim got pwned!"

[Thaatu]

It's crushing for me that I'm gone for just a few months and my face gets taken. Oh well, there's always the dead albino gerbil thingy for backup. What's up with all the new shit anyway? New version, new tavern, new members? A bit intimidating to make a comeback. But anyways, just checking the mood. I might join in with you guys a bit later in the month. Haven't played EB for four months at least, so I'm anxious to try out the new V.

I'm gone again. Take care everyone!

[Emperor Burakuku]

Wait! Don't go yet! Here, let's drink a beer together!! Wait! Thaatuuuuu!

*waves goodbye and cries*

[Ibrahim]

It's crushing for me that I'm gone for just a few months and my face gets taken. Oh well, there's always the dead albino gerbil thingy for backup. What's up with all the new shit anyway? New version, new tavern, new members? A bit intimidating to make a comeback. But anyways, just checking the mood. I might join in with you guys a bit later in the month. Haven't played EB for four months at least, so I'm anxious to try out the new V.

I'm gone again. Take care everyone!

the old tavern was locked as a security measure, due to several spamming and flaming threads. (the Gertruede's fault)...So the Guy who closed it opened it up again..EB 1.1 came on april 9.

@hooahguy: I haven't yet begun to PWN! (or be pwned)

well dang it Thaatuu left-bummer.

[Hooahguy]

ya, but wheres the link to that site?

[Ibrahim]

lost to the sands of time, and was renemd Ismael gets PWNED

[Hooahguy]

darn.....

[Dhampir]

@Dhampir: Burn it man! Yes, the CD. It's evil... it's mindcontrol!

I don't understand a word they say.

[fenix3279]

Well howdy do, cowpokes. It's about time I stopped by. Now someone throw me a brewski before I start chucking pila.
..........please?

[Hooahguy]

sure..... one brewski coming right up!

[Emperor Burakuku]

BTW Hooah, I read your AAR... it's damn funny!

[General Appo]

Finally! I´m about to start up EB for the first time in a week, I could barely survive without it, even though America was nice. Read something funny this morning though, apparently McCain can run for President depsite being born on a U.S. Naval base in Panama, since it´s American territory. The famous U.S. Naval Base on Cuba however, is still not.
I wonder how one decides which Naval Bases are actually US territory, one would think all or non would be, but apparently not.

[Hax]

Welcome back Appo!

How was your stay?

[Hooahguy]

BTW Hooah, I read your AAR... it's damn funny!

thanks.... too bad im a bit caught up on making EB movies... i hope to transfer some of my funniness over to my next movie....
[/teaser]

[General Appo]

Welcome back Appo!

How was your stay?

Well, it was nice enough I guess. Saw some nice things, met some nice poeple, did some nice things. Yes, I think the word nice sums it up pretty good. Though to be honest, just as I hoped, not one of my many (and I mean many, like KKK vs blacks, Hitler vs Jews and Greeks vs Gauls many) prejudices about America and it´s inhabitants was proven false. Of course, not many were proven correct either, but I had really expected at least some to be wrong. Oh well, I guess that means they´re all correct.

[cmacq]

apparently McCain can run for President depsite being born on a U.S. Naval base in Panama, since it´s American territory. The famous U.S. Naval Base on Cuba however, is still not.

A Devil Always With The Details
Is it American territory or an American Territory? If what you read, and I'm assuming, was in a news paper, the reason given was incorrect. If it was an American news paper, which I assume because it was incorrect, by now you may have come to the conclusion that, for the most part, US news papers are not a very good source of information. But then again, maybe you read it as a blog, which is the best place you can go to get good info? Well, at any rate, a blog is far better than a US news paper, for the most part, often, maybe, possibly in some cases? For, in fact neither the Canal Zone in Panama nor Guantanamo Bay in Cuba are US Territories. What may have confused some morons in the press, is that the Zona del Canal de Panamá is indeed a territory, its just not a US Territory.

These are the current US Territories: Puerto Rico, U.S. Virgin Islands, American Samoa, Guam, Northern Mariana Islands, Minor Outlying Islands, Baker Island, Howland Island, Jarvis Island, Johnston Atoll, Midway Islands, Wake Island, Palmyra Atoll, Kingman Reef, Navassa Island, Serranilla Bank, and Bajo Nuevo Bank.

The Canal Zone in Panama and Guantanamo Bay in Cuba are currently considered US Dependent Areas under perpetual lease. They are not US American Territories nor are they American territory in a technical sense, as they are actually territories of Panama and Cuba, under partial or complete US military control (which to us means directly controlled by the US congress, and if the current congress really wanted to change their status it could be done overnight). Still, as far as all children born therein to US service members while serving in Dependent Areas, by law they are provided all rights and privileges of US Citizenship. If one would only have a care to read...

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US Code

TITLE 8 CHAPTER 12 SUBCHAPTER III Part I
§ 1401. Nationals and citizens of United States at birth

The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:
(a) a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof;
(b) a person born in the United States to a member of an Indian, Eskimo, Aleutian, or other aboriginal tribe: Provided, That the granting of citizenship under this subsection shall not in any manner impair or otherwise affect the right of such person to tribal or other property;
(c) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents both of whom are citizens of the United States and one of whom has had a residence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions, prior to the birth of such person;
(d) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year prior to the birth of such person, and the other of whom is a national, but not a citizen of the United States;
(e) a person born in an outlying possession of the United States of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year at any time prior to the birth of such person;
(f) a person of unknown parentage found in the United States while under the age of five years, until shown, prior to his attaining the age of twenty-one years, not to have been born in the United States;
(g) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years: Provided, That any periods of honorable service in the Armed Forces of the United States, or periods of employment with the United States Government or with an international organization as that term is defined in section 288 of title 22 by such citizen parent, or any periods during which such citizen parent is physically present abroad as the dependent unmarried son or daughter and a member of the household of a person
(A) honorably serving with the Armed Forces of the United States, or
(B) employed by the United States Government or an international organization as defined in section 288 of title 22, may be included in order to satisfy the physical-presence requirement of this paragraph. This proviso shall be applicable to persons born on or after December 24, 1952, to the same extent as if it had become effective in its present form on that date; and
(h) a person born before noon (Eastern Standard Time) May 24, 1934, outside the limits and jurisdiction of the United States of an alien father and a mother who is a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, had resided in the United States.

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Thus, what you read, as well as the US State Department FAM 1116.1-4 Not Included in the Meaning of "In the United States" (TL:CON-64;11-30-95), on which the article was possibly based, are more of the same smoke up someones backside while flashing them a mirror. They can stick that in their bloody illegal American citizen pipe and smoke it, crazy rant over.

[General Appo]

Very... interesting. I don´t remember if the article (in Washington Post) said that it was an American Territory, just that it had been concluded that McCain was born on american territory in the Naval Base in Panama, from which one would conclude that this naval base was considered part of the US. The Naval Base at Guantanamo however is not considered part of the US, which is why the American Constitution cannot be applied there, which caused writer of the article to become somewhat upset.
Of course, reading that part of the US Code would suggest that it wouldn´t matter if McCain was born inside the Canadian embassy in Belarus, as both his parents were American.
Anyway, Wikipedia claims that when McCain was born Panama Canal Zone was still under American control, and says this about citizenship to persons born inside it:
"Almost from the inception of the Canal Zone, questions arose as to whether the Zone was considered part of the United States for constitutional purposes, or, in the phrase of the day, whether the Constitution followed the flag. On July 28, 1904, Controller of the Treasury Robert Tracewell stated, ""While the general spirit and purpose of the Constitution is applicable to the zone, that domain is not a part of the United States within the full meaning of the Constitution and laws of the country.""[4] In 1953, Congress passed legislation to specify the status of Americans born in the Canal Zone--and to exclude non-Americans born there from citizenship. Title 8, Section 1403 of the United States Code grants citizenship to those born in the Canal Zone with at least one parent who is a United States citizen. This differs from the provision in the Fourteenth Amendment which grants citizenship to all born in the United States, regardless of parental nationality."

Incredible that we´re having this long discussion about such trivial matters, is it not?

[cmacq]

Indirectly, I've had a few dealings with McCain's staff. Because of this, I can't say I have a favorable opinion of them or him. What I can say is if he knew a little more about the district and state he is supposed to be representing, his aids wouldn't be calling every time some little bull happens to pop up, seemingly out of nowhere.


General Appo, your Italian, right? What is the Italian law concerning citizenship?

[Horst Nordfink]

Small bulls pop up inexplicably in Arizona? How queer.

Having only seen a small amount about John McCain, I much prefer him to Hillary Clinton. At least he seems to be "about" something (however unpleasant and strange), Clinton seems to be just eager for holding the Presidency for the sake of holding the Presidency. Her only perceivable reasons for being President seem to be:

1. Her husband was President and he wasn't as shit as the current one.
2. "I really really want it!"

I dislike the very sight of her. The grinning witch.

[Dhampir]

Small bulls pop up inexplicably in Arizona? How queer.

Having only seen a small amount about John McCain, I much prefer him to Hillary Clinton. At least he seems to be "about" something (however unpleasant and strange), Clinton seems to be just eager for holding the Presidency for the sake of holding the Presidency. Her only perceivable reasons for being President seem to be:

1. Her husband was President and he wasn't as shit as the current one.
2. "I really really want it!"

I dislike the very sight of her. The grinning witch.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

[Ibrahim]

LOL ROFLE
ok ok I'm back.
count clintacula

[General Appo]

General Appo, your Italian, right? What is the Italian law concerning citizenship?

Italian? Where did you get that from? I´m actually from Sweden, where we have some (I believe) quite liberate laws concerning the granting of citizenship. I don´t have the means to find out about it right now, but I think it´s possible to attain a citizenship after living in Sweden for... maybe 20 years? Maybe 10, I don´t know. I think it´s after 3 years that you get to vote in the communal elections though, or something like that. You get more and more right as time goes on.

As for the American presidency, I (as I mentioned in the old tavern) despise all the candidates, plus the whole American system.
Firstly, the election campaigns are based on big freaking bribes. A big oil company gives a president candidate a shitload of money and in return the candidate favours that company if he/she gets elected as President. How is that not both bribery and abuse of power?
Second the whole electorate thing. How can a state with 500,000 people and one with 900,000 people get the same amount of electors? Are the people in the former state more worthy, is their opinion more important?
Thirdly the Disctrict of Columbia. 600,000 people in the capital of the nation that are completely cut of from both basic human rights and the nations laws and constitution. They have only a non-voting represent in the Congress, and nobody on the Senate.
Fourthly, the entire President thing is un-democratic. Firstly it brings to much focus on personality rather then actual political opinions, which should be what matters. It´s all to much "Hey, he looks reliable, let´s vote for him" instead of "Hey, his economic plan to get the economy on tracks really looks like it could work, let´s vote for him". Of course nearly all nations are partially guilty of this, but America even more. Secondly the whole veto thing. A bad President could block everything, everything what so ever. One man should not have that kind of power, especially not considering what kind of nutheads the Americans usually elect.
Fifthly the whole Supreme Court. That a bunch of people not in anyway elected by the people should have an incredibly powerful position for life is just ridiculous, especially considering what nutheads usually gets to sit in the Court.
I could go on and on, but I see no reason to. Finally, let me just say that if I were an American I would vote for Obama. Mainly becasue a strongly disagree with the Republican party on almost everything and becasue Clinton does indeed seem more interested in short-term good PR solutions then true possibly hurtful ones. I don´t want Obama as President for the mighties nation on earth, but I want him more then the other two.

Man this got big. Apologies.