Crusader Kings/Deus Volt

**CountArach** · 04-28-2008, 03:42

Originally Posted by Rythmic

Picked it up for a song last week, definitely worth it, from Duke to King of Wales in two generations and from Count to King of Jerusalem in three was a hell of a lot of fun. And the best part it keeps me away from Uni work!

What's this mod you speak of though?

I'm enjoying my game as Duklja (Just to the NW of the Byzantines). Currently almost half of the Byzantine Empire is in revolt, including 70% of Greece and half of Anatolia. I'm just worried that they will weaken themselves so much that the Turks will just waltz in and clean up - leaving me alone to fight them.

**RabidGibbon** · 05-02-2008, 05:47

I think my favourite addition in Deus Vult is the ability to make someone you've defeated become your vassal rather than taking their land as your own.

This makes civil wars much easier (not that, thinking about it excessive difficultly has ever been one of CK's problems)... but it stops the vassal revolts because of high Bad Boy rating > Defeat Him > Bad Boy rating increases > Vassals get annoyed by even higher Bad Boy rating and rebel cycle, which I was never too fond of.

I dont think its too far wrong historically either, to just slap around a rebellious vassal and tell him to behave, rather than utterly destroying his realm and replacing him with the first person to wander in through the doors of your utterly empty court.

Makes it easier to expand in Christian realms as well, whilst conversely its harder to take Other Relegions provinces because you now score Bad Boy points for taking their land.

**naut** · 05-02-2008, 06:27

Originally Posted by RabidGibbon

whilst conversely its harder to take Other Relegions provinces because you now score Bad Boy points for taking their land.

I always saw that as silly though, you'd be seen as great in the eyes of your religious fellows not as a bad. There really should be two sets of reputation, one for your rep with those of the same religion and one for those of differing religions.

**The Wizard** · 05-03-2008, 23:16

Wait a minute here. You wrote CK off because it lacked female inheritance?

Besides that, DV is fail for the aforementioned fact that it now costs BB to annex stuff from religious enemies. In a game where so much revolves around warfare (lacking complex economics and diplomacy like, say, Vicky), that's some epic failure right there.