What did Vanilla get right?

[chenkai11]

These two statements are contradictory, or more precisely the second one kills the first.

I second to that.

[The General]

I dont own a copy anymore but have heard that it is impossible to play Shogun on XP.

Is there a patch/fix available for it?

It doesn't work for me, crashes at the end of the first AI turn. >_>

*Is furious*

Gief working Shogun.

[Taneda Santôka]

Works for me... Have you tried running it as win98 application? (its in properties iirc)

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These two statements are contradictory, or more precisely the second one kills the first.

No, actually they're not.

What i meant was that CA would've sold roughly the same amount of units if they'd put more work in

[artaxerxes]

RTW is the first computer game I've known to even MENTION Seleucids and Thracians, as well as to include Antigonid Macedonians. Having always had an appetite for the old world, and especially the world of the Diadochi, I always hated how games always went:

Persian Wars -> Peloponessian Wars -> Alexander the Great -> Rome/Caesar...

To actually see a game, which acknowledges the existence of minor states like Pontus, or where Hellenistic states weren't merely cannon-fodder for the Romans but rather a cultures in their own right

I just loved it,,,

But I always hate being at the edge of the map, cos it feels so unrealistic with secure borders there. Thats why I love EB, since then my Seleucids are no longer unrealistically isolated in a corner of the map. EB thus fulfills my dreams. Had I loved the Saka, EB would have irritated me just as much, since they live in this unrealistic corner ;) Until computers get good enough to feature the entire of Eurasia, that'll prolly always be the case. But with EB all my favourite factions are now completely in their own, beautiful surroundings. Lots of thanks !

[Jolt]

Does anyone still remember the game Praetorians? It was hailed as a great game, taking out the "dull aspects" of Age of Empires (Cutting Wood, mining gold, etc.) I thought at one time, "wow, this game is very good" with it's 3 factions (Romans, Egyptians and Barbarians or was it Germans?) composed of: Spearmen, Legionaries, Archers and Cavalry. And when saw my friend installing Rome Total War, I thought it'd be something similar. Oh boy, was I wrong. It had dozens of factions, all with it's own different units. I was awed by the depth of the game, and I must say it was really revolutionary. It made Praetorians look like a demo. Teehee!

and Britons throwing heads at you with enough strength to kill ya.

Never underestimate the power of the human cranium!

[Tiberius Nero]

Well, Shogun was revolutionary for blending real time battles with a strategic campaign map and empire building and diplomacy (sort of) but Rome was really a refinement of already existing concepts, and fairly successful, as refinement goes.

It has to be said though that this kind of blending had already been done, in an extremely rudimentary form in 1992 (I think, or was it '91?) with "Centurion: Defender of Rome".

[Taneda Santôka]

Tiberius NeroIt has to be said though that this kind of blending had already been done, in an extremely rudimentary form in 1992 (I think, or was it '91?) with "Centurion: Defender of Rome".

Well before that was Jeanne d'Arc 1989, on Atari, strategy, tactics, history and some arcade with sieges, really one of my best gaming memories!