This is insane.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7369851.stm
24 freakin' years. Coupled with incest. And locking up three of the kids that was made too.
Bloody hell. Father locking his daughter in the basement for 24 years
This is insane.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7369851.stm
24 freakin' years. Coupled with incest. And locking up three of the kids that was made too.
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
Re: Bloody hell. Father locking his daughter in the basement for 24 years
Now that Emir Kusturita movie really made sense, the one with that communist leader having his community locked in his basement for 20 years, producing weapons for civil wars and such.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0114787/
And that chimp didn't even age.
So what you have here isn't as cool as it could have been.
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Re: Bloody hell. Father locking his daughter in the basement for 24 years
Sigh, those Austrians again...
Re: Bloody hell. Father locking his daughter in the basement for 24 years
Good thing the austrians don't have the death penalty.
This guy deserves to drop his soap in the prison shower every day for the rest of his life, not a quick death.
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
Re: Bloody hell. Father locking his daughter in the basement for 24 years
How do people get so broken in the head?
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Re: Bloody hell. Father locking his daughter in the basement for 24 years
Hmmm... Either the father is the bloody Scarlet Pimpernel, or someone's pants are on fire here. How on earth would you not be aware of the fact that there are seven people locked in your basement?!His wife Rosemarie had allegedly not been aware of what was going on.
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Re: Bloody hell. Father locking his daughter in the basement for 24 years
This is absolutely sick and depressing to insanity when it comes to mind.
Second similar case from Austria. What the hell is going on there ?
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Re: Bloody hell. Father locking his daughter in the basement for 24 years
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What is this Austrian obsession with locking young girls in basements for years?
Re: Bloody hell. Father locking his daughter in the basement for 24 years
Used to be Belgian second-hand care salesmen that had all the cellars and child abuse and stuff. Then it was Roman Catholic clergy in the U.S., now it's Austrian technicians. Goes to show, em, nothing at all really.Second similar case from Austria. What the hell is going on there ?
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Re: Bloody hell. Father locking his daughter in the basement for 24 years
This is a new case? All I heard on the news was something about father locking daughter in basement in Austria and I thought it must be to do with that case I heard about ages ago. Can't believe this is a completely new case, it never rains but it pours doesn't it?
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Re: Bloody hell. Father locking his daughter in the basement for 24 years
Just thinking out loud here: age 72 = born 1936. As a child watched his country go from thrilling victory to ignomious defeat, the humiliating revelations of Nuremburg, very real "Red Scare"s, the implied complicity of the Austrian populace... I wonder if we'll find out he was some sort of survivalist, building his own tribe.
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Re: Bloody hell. Father locking his daughter in the basement for 24 years
It's Austria, not Texas!
Though that's a brillliant story line for a novel you sketched: Austrian breeds new underground race to escape from upstairs superrace.
EDIT
And you may be onto something there. I read a British foreign correspondent's column today that claims that this case and the Kampusch case are not the only instances of Austrian children being locked up by parents or foster parents. There have been several more over the past two decades and one child was even kept in a coffin for years before being "discovered".
"Questions are now being asked as to whether these cases are a symptom of a rich, self-satisfied society as commentators are asking across Austria's press today. A society in which people fail to question what is happening next door, as long as their own lives are happy and intact. It is also a society that, as the Guardian's former diplomatic editor Hella Pick has pointed out in her book Guilty Victim, has a very dark side. For years, it used slick marketing skills - promoting its mountains and Mozart - and the title conveniently given to it by the allies as "Hitler's first victim" to avoid confronting the central role it played in the Holocaust. One should be wary of taking this parallel too far, but this country knows and has ingested the rules of how to cover up."
A bit far-fetched maybe, but so is this whole case.
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Re: Bloody hell. Father locking his daughter in the basement for 24 years
I just watched this live on the BBC. Police were really open about the whole thing. Anyone hear about the status of the original mother/daughter?
Re: Bloody hell. Father locking his daughter in the basement for 24 years
Austria was always strange country for me. But not its ridiculus.
He locked his daughter into basement, told his wife that she disappeared.
Told same police. And everyone trusted him.
1) What have done his wife. Are women really so stupid? Didn't she ever went to basement? Or maybe she took part.
2) What have done police? Were they so stupid not to check?
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Re: Bloody hell. Father locking his daughter in the basement for 24 years
Krook, your sig stinks to high heaven.
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AW: Bloody hell. Father locking his daughter in the basement for 24 years
What the Hell?!?! Why would someone do this?
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Re: Bloody hell. Father locking his daughter in the basement for 24 years
Pretty sick individual. Pretty bloody sick.
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Re: AW: Bloody hell. Father locking his daughter in the basement for 24 years
Yeah well, it is tempting to find some political explanation, but I guess some people are just messed up and that's it. But why did it remain undetected for so long? That's what must be bothering most over there.
It turned out that in the Kampusch case the police had the identity and car registration number of the kidnapper and could have nailed him within weeks, if not days. How about that.
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Re: Bloody hell. Father locking his daughter in the basement for 24 years
For you everywhere is always strange apart fromAustria was always strange country for me.
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Re: Bloody hell. Father locking his daughter in the basement for 24 years
hmm... very very sick... i am just wondering how he managed to keep all 4 of them in control... i mean, surely, they would have tried to escape or at the least make noises...
Re: Bloody hell. Father locking his daughter in the basement for 24 years
Second similar case from Austria. Very strange.
Still no pattern to explain - there is nothing in Austria which could explain that strange sequence of similar, horrid incidents.
Their internal security seemed shattered when he spoke about it in Warsaw today. Certainly a bad time for Austria - people will recall the previous case for sure.
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Re: Bloody hell. Father locking his daughter in the basement for 24 years
He kept them in a secure space, with one entrance which had some form of coded lock on it, hidden behind shelves. He was pretty thorough.
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INEZ: Prove it. Prove it was no dream. It's what one does, and nothing else, that shows the stuff one's made of.
GARCIN: I died too soon. I wasn't allowed time to - to do my deeds.
INEZ: One always dies too soon - or too late. And yet one's whole life is complete at that moment, with a line drawn neatly under it, ready for the summing up. You are - your life, and nothing else.
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Re: Bloody hell. Father locking his daughter in the basement for 24 years
Good god, what a monster. As was already mentioned, this kind of man transcends the death penalty and should bear enduring torture for the rest of his life at the hands of sexually depraved inmates, even then that's not half of the torture he dealt those 7 people.
Re: Bloody hell. Father locking his daughter in the basement for 24 years
He should have just gotten a Realdoll.
What a freak show. I find it hard to believe that the wife wouldn't go into the basement in 20 some odd years.
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Re: Bloody hell. Father locking his daughter in the basement for 24 years
Apparently there will be a connection between both crimes.
The victim of the previous case Natascha Kampusch offered to help to the woman and her children.
Perhaps it is the best idea I have heard about this till right now.
Re: Bloody hell. Father locking his daughter in the basement for 24 years
Hold on to your horses, don't get ahead of yourself.
GARCIN: I "dreamt," you say. It was no dream. When I chose the hardest path, I made my choice deliberately. A man is what he wills himself to be.
INEZ: Prove it. Prove it was no dream. It's what one does, and nothing else, that shows the stuff one's made of.
GARCIN: I died too soon. I wasn't allowed time to - to do my deeds.
INEZ: One always dies too soon - or too late. And yet one's whole life is complete at that moment, with a line drawn neatly under it, ready for the summing up. You are - your life, and nothing else.
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Re: Bloody hell. Father locking his daughter in the basement for 24 years
The man should be incarcerated for the remainder of his life (penal/mental institution). He obviously constitutes a threat to others.
Torture is not justified, morally, as a form of punishment. To use it demeans the society condoning same and the individuals involved.
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