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    EBII Hod Carrier Member QuintusSertorius's Avatar
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    Something fishy is going on with my Romani game. I've got a Proconsul's palace in all five of my central Italian provinces (Roma, Arpi, Capua, Arretium, Ariminium), indeed I have them in every single province in Italy.

    Yet I'm certain they've not happened, is there a population trigger as well as having the right building? Makedonia in my game could really do with those reformed phalanxes to give them something to beat Koinon Hellenon. Plus the Pahlava need those cataphracts or whatever it improves for them.

    I've only played a single turn without the script activated, because I couldn't get past it otherwise without a CTD. I have been flipping back and forth between the old script and the optimised one, but I can't imagine that would cause problems.
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    A Proconsul's palace corresponds to a Large/Major City. What you need is a Hughe City in the right province (see the EB 1.1 Maps thread for a map ) with ditto palace.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellos Athenaios
    A Proconsul's palace corresponds to a Large/Major City. What you need is a Hughe City in the right province (see the EB 1.1 Maps thread for a map ) with ditto palace.
    They're all Huge cities with the top tier government building. Every single city in Italy. I'm at 171BC for reference.

    I've got some with populations over 28k with nothing left on the building queue.

    What's an easy way to check if it's happened already? Might I have missed it when one of those many cities triggered it? I've seen the popup before in another game, so I can't think I wouldn't have noticed, but I might not be remembering. Is there a marker in one of the AI faction's cities I could find using the generic script? Is there a particular unit I should be looking out for in their barracks roster to tell me it's happened (like the Makedonian Reformed Phalanx)? I note that the Greeks are using Thorakitai - is that a sign?
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    Turn FOW off, check a Baktrian FM for Hetairoi Kataprhaktoi; or a Hayasdan one for Elite Cataphracts (not kinsmen cavalry!); or a Pontic one for Hetairoi/Hellenic Cataphract style bodyguard.
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    Default Re: The march of time

    Hmm, now I'm the idiot, checked the various bodyguards, and the recruitment roster in Pella, and the March of Time has already happened. I just don't remember it.

    Par exemple:



    So there's a bigger problem. Why aren't Makedonia recruiting reformed phalanxes? All they're churning out are crappy levy ones and classical hoplites.
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    Because the AI thinks given its current situation it's more prudent to use the dirt-cheap, yet quite effective levies...

    In short: the AI is acting smart on the strategical level (for a change); but that will not help much if it doesn't equal its strategical foresight on the tactical level too...
    Last edited by Tellos Athenaios; 06-02-2008 at 03:52.
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    Default Re: The march of time

    I think the problem here is that while the reform does happen, the "March of Time" message doesn't pop up. I for one have never seen that message either, despite getting the reforms in multiple campaigns - although I play using BI.exe and so I used to think that that was the cause.

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