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    Hello!

    Well, I've always been fascinated by the princesses and how they can be used to mess up your royal bloodline by capturing a foreign general, and then make sure he becomes the faction leader eventually. I thought: "who has the best starting position for this task?" This is why I figured out I'd have a go at a small research project - that of collecting the information about all the starting princesses of the christian factions.

    The findings are somewhat less interesting/exciting than I was hoping for...

    Anyways... here you go:


    BYZANTINE EMPIRE:

    Anna Comnenus
    Age: 20
    Charm: 3
    Retinue: None
    Traits:
    - Natural Negotiator (+2 charm)
    - Diplomatic Ability (+1 charm)
    ______________________________

    DENMARK:

    Ingrid
    Age: 18
    Charm: 3
    Retinue: None
    Traits:
    - Natural Negotiator (+2 charm)
    - Diplomatic Ability (+1 charm)
    ______________________________

    ENGLAND:

    Cecilia
    Age: 25
    Charm: 3
    Retinue: None
    Traits:
    - Natural Negotiator (+2 charm)
    - Diplomatic Ability (+1 charm)
    ______________________________

    FRANCE:

    Constance
    Age: 19
    Charm: 5
    Retinue: None
    Traits:
    - Natural Negotiator (+2 charm)
    - Diplomatic Ability (+1 charm)
    - Head Turner (+2 charm)
    ______________________________

    HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE:

    Agnes
    Age: 21
    Charm: 3
    Retinue: None
    Traits:
    - Natural Negotiator (+2 charm)
    - Diplomatic Ability (+1 charm)
    ______________________________

    HUNGARY:

    Pioska
    Age: 18
    Charm: 3
    Retinue: None
    Traits:
    - Natural Negotiator (+2 charm)
    - Diplomatic Ability (+1 charm)
    ______________________________

    MILAN:

    No princess
    ______________________________

    POLAND:

    Agnes Herman
    Age: 18
    Charm: 3
    Retinue: None
    Traits:
    - Natural Negotiator (+2 charm)
    - Diplomatic Ability (+1 charm)
    ______________________________

    PORTUGAL:

    Maria
    Age: 18
    Charm: 3
    Retinue: None
    Traits:
    - Natural Negotiator (+2 charm)
    - Diplomatic Ability (+1 charm)
    ______________________________

    RUSSIA:

    Antonina
    Age: 20
    Charm: 3
    Retinue: None
    Traits:
    - Natural Negotiator (+2 charm)
    - Diplomatic Ability (+1 charm)
    ______________________________

    SCOTLAND:

    No princess
    ______________________________

    SICILY:

    No princess
    ______________________________

    SPAIN:

    Teresa el Valiente
    Age: 19
    Charm: 3
    Retinue: None
    Traits:
    - Natural Negotiator (+2 charm)
    - Diplomatic Ability (+1 charm)

    Urraca el Valiente
    Age: 20
    Charm: 3
    Retinue: None
    Traits:
    - Natural Negotiator (+2 charm)
    - Diplomatic Ability (+1 charm)
    ______________________________




    Results/conclusions:
    Most factions have identical starting position (except the age), but we find some exceptions:
    - The Italian factions and Scotland don't have any princesses at the beginning. These factions starts out with a disadvantage for this task.
    - Spain has two princesses. This is an advantage as you can be looking for a new future king at two places on the map at once. You could for example send one to Italy and Balkans (where HRE also are), while the other one can head north to France via Scandinavia, and then continue on to The Baltics.
    - France has the winning hand here with the stunning princess who goes by the name of Constance. She really is something, isn't she? Shouldn't take many succesful negotiations for her before she is charming enough to capture a general.

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    Default Re: List of Princesses

    nice work.

    When ever I play England, I make sure to nab Constance for Rufus on turn two.


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    Constance: 1st turn send her to gain traderights, 1000 flo, and map info from England (their diplomat is due west in the trees, you should be able to meet him the first turn). Then send her out to meet with the Germans on the other side of Metz (it will take a few turns to get there, and you may want to keep interacting with the Eng. diplomat to try and get spirited princess, but only up to the second rank).


    After you have gotten the German's map info and maybe an Alliance for a touch of cash, send her up North to steal Dietrich von Saxony, and maybe interact with the Danish Princess if she's in the area by that point. You might be able to get her around 7 or 8 depending on secret lovers and good diplomacy traits.

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    I hate the Secret Lover and Secret Charm retinues, they always muck up my Princesses aftern I go to the trouble of training them up. My record was an 8 charm princess, as the HRE IIRC.

    And although Milan don't start with a Princess, they have a daughter in the family tree that becomes one not long in. Fiora Rossi I think.
    At the end of the day politics is just trash compared to the Gospel.

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    Agreed, all my princesses all seem to get both Secret Lovers and Obsessed Suitors, and the Snob trait, no matter what I do. It would be nice if secret lovers were deterred by having a high-dread father.

    Also, Sicily gets a princess within a few years of the start.

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    I agree with the two above posts.

    It also seems like if they are "born" (read: 16 years old) with a retinue, this sets the standard for the princess' development. All princesses I get who are "born" with "delicate blade" seems to get other positive retinues.

    Opposite; if she comes with a negative retinue, she'll most likely develop a lot more of them...

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