Working on a bank holiday.

**PBI** · 05-05-2008, 13:33

I'm giving a seminar in half an hour to my fellow PhD students. Not how I would generally choose to spend my bank holiday.

Stupid work ethic. I think I'll pay the organisers back by making sure I give a really boring seminar. Maybe I'll overrun by half an hour or so just for good measure.

**Veho Nex** · 05-05-2008, 14:23

Hate to sound niave but whats a bank holiday?

**KukriKhan** · 05-05-2008, 14:24

Be sure to sprinkle the phrase:

"At the end of the day..."

liberally throughout your presentation. It'll set everyone's teeth on edge.

edit: probably too late; he wrote: 'half an hour', over an hour ago. The audience should be sound asleep by now

Bank holiday = gratuitous day-off in UK.

**Samurai Waki** · 05-05-2008, 22:00

*plays the worlds smallest violin*

**Rhyfelwyr** · 05-05-2008, 22:46

Working on a bank holiday is just wrong.

I've got summer holidays in two week though!

After exams unfortunately...

**Papewaio** · 05-05-2008, 22:46

Holiday = time and a half.

**Caius** · 05-05-2008, 23:40

Holiday= Saint Day.

**pevergreen** · 05-06-2008, 00:40

Labour day yesterday

**SwordsMaster** · 05-06-2008, 01:12

Originally Posted by Papewaio

Holiday = time and a half.

Really?
Over here time and a half is overtime, saturdays is 2x, and sundays and national holidays is 3x. God bless sunday night shifts: 3x the money and monday off!

**Ice** · 05-06-2008, 22:40

Originally Posted by SwordsMaster

Really?
Over here time and a half is overtime, saturdays is 2x, and sundays and national holidays is 3x. God bless sunday night shifts: 3x the money and monday off!

3x? I'd work 12 hours on Sunday.

**Papewaio** · 05-06-2008, 23:08

Originally Posted by SwordsMaster

Really?
Over here time and a half is overtime, saturdays is 2x, and sundays and national holidays is 3x. God bless sunday night shifts: 3x the money and monday off!

Not in IT as that is kind of 'expected' and the contracts are written up as such. Mind you when I'm on call I get an extra days pay for the week just for holding onto my phone and not passing out when answering it.

**Sigurd** · 05-07-2008, 13:00

Originally Posted by Papewaio

Not in IT as that is kind of 'expected' and the contracts are written up as such. Mind you when I'm on call I get an extra days pay for the week just for holding onto my phone and not passing out when answering it.

I guess Pape is somewhat right.
It is all negotiation, negotiation, negotiation.
My first IT job didn't pay extra for overtime... well it didn't pay anything as I got a fixed mothly salary.
Big mistake!!

In my next and current job I made sure to put into the contract a clause about overtime.
Basically it states that voluntary overtime only pays the equivalent of an hourly wage and that you can put them into a time bank for later extraction into payment or time off.
Required overtime pays according to state regulation (+50% from 16:00 to 20:00 on weekdays, +50% all hours saturdays up to 20:00, +100% after 20:00 on weekdays and saturdays and +100% on sundays and holydays. An extra hour mealbreak at 17:00 is paid for by the company).
Oh... and we work only 37,5 hours a week, overtime for every hour above this.

**PBI** · 05-07-2008, 14:00

Alas, I am a student, and thus not only do I not get paid extra for working holidays, I don't get paid at all. All I got was the rather dubious satisfaction of being able to say smugly to my colleages, "Enjoy your long weekend? Personally, I got tons done" on Tuesday morning.

For those who are interested, the seminar didn't go too well, only four people turned up. I suppose I learned my lesson about agreeing to work on a bank holiday.

**KukriKhan** · 05-07-2008, 14:22

Originally Posted by Sigurd Fafnesbane

I guess Pape is somewhat right.
It is all negotiation, negotiation, negotiation.
My first IT job didn't pay extra for overtime... well it didn't pay anything as I got a fixed mothly salary.
Big mistake!!

In my next and current job I made sure to put into the contract a clause about overtime.
Basically it states that voluntary overtime only pays the equivalent of an hourly wage and that you can put them into a time bank for later extraction into payment or time off.
Required overtime pays according to state regulation (+50% from 16:00 to 20:00 on weekdays, +50% all hours saturdays up to 20:00, +100% after 20:00 on weekdays and saturdays and +100% on sundays and holydays. An extra hour mealbreak at 17:00 is paid for by the company).
Oh... and we work only 37,5 hours a week, overtime for every hour above this.

That's a pretty complicated formula, but I agree, it's all about negotiation.

Here (US, California, union job) the 'standard' is: Five 8-hour days:

Any hours over 8 per day = +50%,
and any days over 5 per week = +50%.
Night shift = +10% for all hours.
Working any of the 10 federal holidays = +50% all day.

Non-union jobs often pay no overtime at all.