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    Default Re : French foreign policy in the EE - a real change or an illusion ?

    As for the topic, I think Sarko's foreign policy is mostly utter crap (mostly, because I do not disagree with everything).
    But then, he's likely going to fail, as usual.

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    Besides what about that situation in Guatemala when two of your 'brave' soldiers kicked that poor child and laughed cruelly - the poor kid could never recover. You are no better than us, bloody hypocrite !'
    What ? both of them , wow that must have been a very busy day for the IDF monitors.
    Oh come on surely you can do better than that , why not try one of the African deployments for some real meaty stuff you can criticise .

    Now of course I would be a bloody hypocrit if I was a flag waving muppet who said that only other countries do bad stuff and Ireland is the greatest at everything since unsliced bread first came out of the oven , but as I ain't you is talking bollox .

    Be gone, I have invested enough time and patience with you already and will never make the same mistake twice only to get insulted in a way I will never forgive.
    I think that is a challenge of "Handbags at dawn on the field of honour" Adrian .

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    Default Re: French foreign policy in the EE - a real change or an illusion ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tribesman
    What ? both of them , wow that must have been a very busy day for the IDF monitors.
    Oh come on surely you can do better than that , why not try one of the African deployments for some real meaty stuff you can criticise .

    Now of course I would be a bloody hypocrit if I was a flag waving muppet who said that only other countries do bad stuff and Ireland is the greatest at everything since unsliced bread first came out of the oven , but as I ain't you is talking bollox . .
    This answer leaves me ... stunned, I guess...

    Can you explain if you are serious or perhaps you need to read it again:

    Besides it is rather the 'whataboutism' I am concerned about usually used in defence of things which cannot be defended.

    There are limits to that, at certain point nothing is left but either condemnation ,confession and serious, honest discussion and disclosure or...
    'What extermination camps ? Besides what about that situation in Guatemala when two of your 'brave' soldiers kicked that poor child and laughed cruelly - the poor kid could never recover. You are no better than us, bloody hypocrite !'

    Every nation has 'defenders' of this kind - perhaps Krook is one of them I cannot say that because I am not reading his threads, but I have seen enough of this garbage used to derail criticism. Especially when simplified statements or utter lies are used as examples for 'whataboutism'.
    I thought absurd is almost screaming from that invented quote and it is perfectly understandable...


    Seriously, shall I break it down in small pieces and explain everything ??




    EDIT I have a possible explanation. Apparently you thought that it was some sort of ultimatum - either you condemn, confess and disclose something (though what, I have no idea) or I will accuse Ireland for beating a boy in Guatemala (why in Guatemala ? I don't remember anything about UN or other international forces in that country).


    Is that right ?






    Probably the strangest reception of something I wrote, ever...
    Last edited by cegorach; 05-04-2008 at 14:43.

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