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    Default Can Ken, or ken Boris become London Mayor?

    London elects its mayor today. The least you can say is this election pits two characters against one another.













    It's a close call by any standard, and such neck-and-necks usually provoke the weirdest media coverage. There is a classic example of counterproductive campaigning in this morning's The Guardian. If I were an undecided London voter, this article would definitely push me over the edge and make me vote for Johnson. It is a personal attack, it is below the belt and it takes many of Boris Johnson's funny or tragi-comic quips from the past seriously, thereby demonstrating that the authors have no sense of humour whatsoever. If these are Ken's supporters, I'd pass.
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    The snobbery expressed in many of those comments is breathtaking. The article itself is slanderous and very weak on real arguments.

    If the people of London feel Boris is for them, all well and good. He may be untried, but career politicos like Ken run out of ideas about a year after they started.

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    Go Boris!

    Boris for PM!

    I personally think he'd be a good larf. And, would most likely come up with some rather good ideas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikeus Caesar
    Go Boris!

    Boris for PM!

    I personally think he'd be a good larf.

    Yep, you clearly don't live in London. A good laugh, yeah we will all be laughing when he everything up.

    I voted a couple weeks back via postal vote and it's no secret who I voted for, Ken first choice, green second.

    Ken has been good for London, if he hadn't I might understand some of the abuse which has been aimed at him. But of course no one can really explain the problems with his policies, especially not the Tories - they send an upper class babbling baboon to contest the vote, whose only benefit is name recognition - as a moron - and have the Evening Standard slander Ken day in, day out.

    Come on Ken.

    I am pretty confident he is going to win and I think the winning margin is going to be if not comfortable, still significant - say 4-7%. Boris is not going to get the second place votes, he may win round one but when the Lib Dem votes go to Ken, he will walk away with it.
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    Well in any case someone at The Guardian deserves a really hard spanking for letting this through at all.
    Why ? its what the Guardian is good for , it gives all sorts of idiots an oppertunity to publish .

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    Wow, I wonder what Boris' peripheral vision is like.


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    There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.

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    How long is the Mayor's term, and is it limited in length? Are there "recall" provisions if the wrong guy gets the job and makes a total mess - or must the voters wait 'til the next election?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KukriKhan
    How long is the Mayor's term, and is it limited in length? Are there "recall" provisions if the wrong guy gets the job and makes a total mess - or must the voters wait 'til the next election?
    Four years IIRC.

    Originally Posted by Vivienne Westwood
    Boris as mayor? Unthinkable. It just exposes democracy as a sham, especially if people don't agree with me vote for Ken
    A Londoner? I thought she was from Oldham or somesuchplace.
    There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.

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    if the wrong guy gets the job
    That's democracy for you, you get what you ask for, not what's good for you
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    OIC. This is a pretty new postcreated only recently, presumeably to get Parliament out of the day-to-day business of running London.

    How exciting. No wonder the election garners such attention (and vitriol).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Banquo's Ghost
    The snobbery expressed in many of those comments is breathtaking.
    You are so right, somehow I forgot to mention the snobbery. You look at all those prominent names and you say to yourself: these people are actually in a position to influence Livingstone, these are the sort of people who can talk him into taking or scrapping all sorts of measures and policies. That's what makes this stupid, vindictive lot downright scary. And this in a race that is so close, with victory depending on maybe half a percent of voters. I mean how stupid and full of yourself can you get?

    It's a prime example of campaigners shooting themselves in the foot with a big phat Bazooka.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrian II
    It's a prime example of campaigners shooting themselves in the foot with a big phat Bazooka.


    Anyway, their mock-working class disdain is utterly misplaced - it's hardly the case that Boris is of the finer classes. He's so arriviste.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Banquo's Ghost


    Anyway, their mock-working class disdain is utterly misplaced - it's hardly the case that Boris is of the finer classes. He's so arriviste.

    And Circassian, too!

    The man's sense of homour is unsurpassed in today's politics. Dear Lord, grant us, modest Dutchmen, one Boris of our own. Just one, please. Please?
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    The article itself is slanderous and very weak on real arguments.
    Do you think it goes back to their falling out at the spectator ?
    Williams always seemed like a vindictive who would really harbour a grudge whereas Boris would probaly go "Spectator ????I was one at Lords I think ..lots of people from the colonies....hmmmmmm....radishes are quite pleasant"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tribesman
    Do you think it goes back to their falling out at the spectator ?
    Is that so?

    Well in any case someone at The Guardian deserves a really hard spanking for letting this through at all.
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