Death of the Spartans

[NeoSpartan]

YOU SHOULD HAVE FOUGHT ON THE HILL TOP!!!!!!!!!!!

thats why u lost. U can't expect your levyes and skermishers to hold on a flat ground,

[Ibrahim]

you actually thaught the levy hoplites would stand vs. Hetairoi? several battles have shown that Hetairoi can defeat and kill all pantodapoi, levy hoplite, and even levy phalangites given the chance. youdon't even need that many hetairoi; 13 hetairoi of mine routed 40 levy hoplites with more experiance in minutes (in Syria an Ambush by Eleutheroi, playing as AS).

you shouldn't have had any levies as well in the first place..oh well.

[craziii]

use your elite spartans to kill their cavalry. it is that simple. levies, even with +4 bonus, doesn't do much vs 30 defense, where half of that is armor. your elite spearmen generals should eat macedon's for breakfast, unless you let them ram you up from behind. never leave your hopolites in defense formation, cavalries easily circle them after the initial charge, their formation is just too tight. it is good for wall breaches or narrow street fights but not in the open plains.

ps: off topic, when you select hopolites or phalanx with other infantry and form a line with them, they never get to where the yellow marker indicates(hopolites likes to run to it's left or right of the markers, phalanx always 3 rows behind the yellow markers while the officers get it right), always need a 2nd or 3rd placement order :( will this be fix?

[Tellos Athenaios]

@OT: No, it's something related to the RTW engine which we can't fix without 'fixing' the binary files.

[PershsNhpios]

When I play a Hellenic faction, all I used for main infantry until about 250 BC are my Hapless Haploi - I conquered many many places with them!

I would guess that your problem was the amount of experience those generals had.
Several command stars and silver chevrons can cause a hell of a party if you don't deal with those generals immediately, or have an immense wing of cavalry yourself.

If that wasn't the case - bad luck!

I myself have never launched a campaign into enemy territory without something like that occurring! Everyone else says it's fun! Bah!

[Xurr]

When I play a Hellenic faction, all I used for main infantry until about 250 BC are my Hapless Haploi - I conquered many many places with them!

I would guess that your problem was the amount of experience those generals had.
Several command stars and silver chevrons can cause a hell of a party if you don't deal with those generals immediately, or have an immense wing of cavalry yourself.

If that wasn't the case - bad luck!

I myself have never launched a campaign into enemy territory without something like that occurring! Everyone else says it's fun! Bah!

Hehe I had that happen in my first Romani campaign. I sent a full stack into Sauromatae territory consisting of mainly of Camillian troops with 2 units of Roman cavalry. It was attacked by a huge horse/foot archer army. I tell you I felt like Crassus when he was defeated by the Parthians. It was awesome to actually see a little repeat of history.