Stele #6: Pergamon

[MeinPanzer]

Sooo.... what do you wanna call them?

I'm not criticizing EB's title for the Seleucids. I remember the thread from way back when where they discussed what they should be called and I think they arrived at the logical answer. My point is that Arche Seleukeia is not the ancient name for the Seleucids, though, and so something along those lines for the Pergamene dynasty would not be inappropriate.

Whether or not they were called Seleukidai in the past is not the point. The fact is that they were the descendants of Seleukos, who had declared himself Basileus in 305. Philetairos had not declared himself Basileus of Pergamon in 272 BC, so I think this is the reason why the one is called the Arche Seleukeia, even though Seleukeia is referring to the city, not so much to the dynasty, and the other is called Pergamon.

If whether a dynasty had been named or not before the starting point is the criteria, then that makes sense.

The Seleukeia in Arche Seleukeia is an adjective meaning "of Seleukos," and has nothing to do with the city.

Still, Kings of Syria. It is a Roman name though. At least Livius said Syria.

Contemporary Ptolemaic inscriptions refer to the Seleucids as the Kings of Syria.