But what about everything else? The barbarians'll get massacred!
Also, Watchman, the link to the FSM graph is defunct, and has been so for some weeks (AFAICT).
But what about everything else? The barbarians'll get massacred!
Also, Watchman, the link to the FSM graph is defunct, and has been so for some weeks (AFAICT).
Most of the barbarians I tried the Iphs against actually massacred them. Any of the base-50 man units just swamp them, and all the reasonably well-equipped mid-grade units hack them to bits. Much like the Hastati reliably did, actually. The overabundance of thrown pointy things also contributes, as the Iphs aren't the most missile-resistant infantry around.
'Course, it could also be that I didn't flatten out the basic 4-rank depth which of course made getting "wrapped around" by looser-order units - nevermind more numerous ones - something of a foregone conclusion. But, then again, you don't want something like that happening with pikes either do you ?
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Maybe a few before and after pics?
Very interesting thread, guys.
In the Paeninsula Italica mod (I work on the EDU) I'm using this very simple model : 0.4 - (MORALE/100)
So the Spartiatai, for example, will have a radius of : 0.4 - 0.17 = 0.23 that is very close to the optimum. Less drilled units will have a looser formation, and levy hoplites will fight in a manner only slightly more tight than non-hoplites units.
I suggest give this feature to all units that have the first value in the formation line inferior than 1.
About the discussion about Iphikratous, IMHO the decision of the EB team is senseless. The fast cavalry catchers are:
1. for old style hoplites, the Ekdromoi.
2. for reformed hoplites, the Thureophoroi.
The only point in the existence of such a unit as Iphikratous hoplitai is to portrait the advantage of new hoplites in spear lenght, and the only way to achieve this is through the phalanx formation. Again, IMHO.
Cheers
EDIT: I don't remember if already posted, anyway, original discussion here http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=188651
Meh. Pain in the a... rear to upload and all. Do your own experiments you lazy git!
Yeah well, the EB Thureophoroi aren't all that fast (partly because of relatively heavy equipement, partly because of model-sharing issues with the heavier Thorakitai)... they're more like a hoplite/legionary crossbreed really.Originally Posted by Aper
"Let us remember that there are multiple theories of Intelligent Design. I and many others around the world are of the strong belief that the universe was created by a Flying Spaghetti Monster. --- Proof of the existence of the FSM, if needed, can be found in the recent uptick of global warming, earthquakes, hurricanes, and other natural disasters. Apparently His Pastaness is to be worshipped in full pirate regalia. The decline in worldwide pirate population over the past 200 years directly corresponds with the increase in global temperature. Here is a graph to illustrate the point."
-Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster
You think I've got the time for that? >_<
What ever happened to the out runner hoplite's fast attribute. They kinda blow without it as they can't catch anything.
As for Iphs, I usually use a three man deep formation against infantry. I also usually guard mode up until the enemy is exhausted and only then switch to attack.
Fighting isn't about winning, it's about depriving your enemy of all options except to lose.
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"Let us remember that there are multiple theories of Intelligent Design. I and many others around the world are of the strong belief that the universe was created by a Flying Spaghetti Monster. --- Proof of the existence of the FSM, if needed, can be found in the recent uptick of global warming, earthquakes, hurricanes, and other natural disasters. Apparently His Pastaness is to be worshipped in full pirate regalia. The decline in worldwide pirate population over the past 200 years directly corresponds with the increase in global temperature. Here is a graph to illustrate the point."
-Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster
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