Are the numbers correct in Burma?

[Tribesman]

Could blame me for not looking it up but if you ask me we should blame socialism in general for being like that.

But they are nationalists Frag , they like to keep the minorities down because they don't seem to integrate and adopt to the correct Burmese way of life , I thought they would have been right up your street as far as regimes go .

[InsaneApache]

The Chinese like 'em.

[Banquo's Ghost]

It pains me to shore up Fragony's neat and tidy view on the world, but he can claim this one as a socialist regime.

The original nutter that instituted the junta in 1962, General Ne Win, did so through creating his Burmese Socialist Programme Party which had the catchy policy of the Burmese Way to Socialism. He nationalised everything that moved down to water buffalo, shutting down all democratic institutions and eradicating the free press.

Now, discerning minds might see that these characteristics are socialist in the same way that National Socialism was, or that countries that call themselves Democratic Republics are always democratic. Not.

But in Fragony's World, he has a point.

[Adrian II]

The regime in Burma called itself Socialist until 1988, when it renamed itself 'Union of Burma' and then (1989) 'Union of Myanmar'. It is controlled by the military. There is not even a socialist party. The old BSPP re-formed itself into the National Unity Party in 1988. It's ideology is fervent nationalism, mitigated by institutionalised corruption.

But in Fragony's World, he has a point.

He is also the only one who lives there.

[Caius]

For me, its not a good idea. I think the government will use the funds for other things.

[rory_20_uk]

If you don't want to play in the International playground, then don't expect money when things go wrong.

Do nothing: people will suffer.
Give money: prople will still suffer.
Invade: people will suffer.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

But they are nationalists Frag , they like to keep the minorities down because they don't seem to integrate and adopt to the correct Burmese way of life , I thought they would have been right up your street as far as regimes go .

Why can't nationalism and socialism mix?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Bolshevism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strasserism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korea

In short, they can mix, but it's a bad combination.

[Tribesman]

Why can't nationalism and socialism mix?

Egalitarianism , once nationalism gets into the mix it isn't socialism is it .

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

Egalitarianism , once nationalism gets into the mix it isn't socialism is it .

Socialism as an economic theory can coexist quite peacefully with nationalism. There's no reason why they can't coexist - but, like I said, I wouldn't want to live where they did.

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[Tribesman]

Your first link disproves your point , if Zanu was socialist and nationalist then it wouldn't have policies favouring tribal , political or race groups would it as all people of Zimbabwe would be equal before the law.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

Your first link disproves your point , if Zanu was socialist and nationalist then it wouldn't have policies favouring tribal , political or race groups would it as all people of Zimbabwe would be equal before the law.

Zanu-PF is both left-wing and nationalist.

[Marshal Murat]

Maniac you seem to have forgotten a link combining socialism and nationalism (and maybe fascism).

I believe it's called "Hillary Clinton".