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    Default Re: please tell me there will be a hannibal event

    appo, i agree with that, but if we are to run with it we need to suppose all these things would eventually happen from the first turn you play. the argument of "historical railroading" is easily applied to any argument and quite arbitrary in my opinion.

    to argue there would have to be marian reforms due to romes ever increasing empire is to first guess there was an ever increasing empire, and at the start of the game that has yet to be decided. when these things are added to the script you are presupposing something will happen to allow an event to occur

    i just think it would be cool to have an event that if the certain triggers are met, he appears.

    i wont deny i have hero worship, and my request is quite selfish

    ludens, to distill hannibal down to the march through the alps is to forget this man was the terror of rome for over a decade, basically creating a state within a state for quite a long while, but i agree that if you step outside of the whole vast timeframe of this period, those 15 years can appear superficial

    like i said i understand and empathise with all your guys' points

    heres to civility
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    Default Re: please tell me there will be a hannibal event

    Hey, nobody's stopping you to ship a Hannibal of your own to Spain, recruit an army there, march through the Alps to terrorize Rome!

    This is EB, you can -change- history!
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    Default Re: please tell me there will be a hannibal event

    Quote Originally Posted by Hax
    Hey, nobody's stopping you to ship a Hannibal of your own to Spain, recruit an army there, march through the Alps to terrorize Rome!

    This is EB, you can -change- history!
    I've done it and it's great, but with no elephants at all.
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    Default Re: please tell me there will be a hannibal event

    Quote Originally Posted by Shabby_Ronin
    i just think it would be cool to have an event that if the certain triggers are met, he appears.
    i thought it would be cool to have some various great people appear if CERTAIN CONDITIONS merit it, possibly using the special abilities available in kingdoms... and as i said , it is very subjective about who people think was more relevant. i understand it could cause too many arguments about who was more important.

    they stated its not an option, so thats that
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    Default Re: please tell me there will be a hannibal event

    But you know, that would be giving Carthage a huge army at Carthago Nova (or whatever its actual name is) which is already unfair. And then if AI controls Carthage, then we have to force the AI to march that stack by land into Italy through the alps, and we have to force BOTH Gallic tribes to declare war on Carthage but only attack Hannibal with small 1~3 unit stacks, and then he goes into Italy and if the AI also control the Romans, then the AI has to send army after army after it, but only two or three direct confrontation, and Carthage have to win all of them, and then we have to give Southern Italy + Campania to Carthage, and after that we still have to make sure Hannibal stays in Italy and not march back to Spain or go to Scicily.

    Not to mention if the player is either Gaul or Roman then Hannibal would be stopped dead before he gets anywhere, and if the player is Carthage that just give the player unfair extra troops.

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