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    Default Re: Advance or defense?

    Since I usually have missile superiority, most of my battles are defensive, because the AI immediately attacks.

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    It always depend on what you have to work with and what the situation is.

    If you have mass artillery / missle .. obviously you want them to come to you.

    if you have mass cavs and they have mass missile, obviously you want to be aggressive.

    It's all situational.

    Basically, you want to be aggressive whenever your oppenents are vunerable, but you could avoid a full out attack until you create the moment of vunerability.

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    The main advantage of night battles is that the enemy cannot use reinforcements. Read that again, it can be important!

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    Unless you're fighting the Mongols where almost all their generals are night fighters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Fluffy
    Unless you're fighting the Mongols where almost all their generals are night fighters.
    Which, let's face it, is the only time you really need to split up enemy armies anyway - to be able to duke it out on the field with just the one Mongol army at a time, rather than four at once.

    Otherwise, I find the enemy reinforcements usually end up working to my advantage; how many times have I captured the enemy citadel without a fight because I drew the garrison out as reinforcements and annihilated them in the field?

    That's an important point actually - if the enemy is attacking with two or more armies, you should always attack the first army immediately to defeat them in detail before they can unite even if you are technically on the defensive, unless you really do have a truly unassailable defensive position.

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    yeh i definantly cant stand the mongols.Only way to beat them in a full scale battle without seperating them is to quickly destroy the first like Poor said,then youd prolly have to find good ground.Then pray...

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    Quote Originally Posted by WarMachine187
    yeh i definantly cant stand the mongols.Only way to beat them in a full scale battle without seperating them is to quickly destroy the first like Poor said,then youd prolly have to find good ground.Then pray...
    The best way to beat the Mongols is to goad them into sally/siege battles. I am 1 large battle away from beating them again, this time having taken Antioch early, it is prepared for their entire army group. I have used only militia troops for this and 1 ballista. Mongols are THE WORST faction for taking a city, I find it impossible to lose against them in a sally or siege. My battle that I will play tonite after work is against the last 3 Mongol armies and then they are history.... even the Timurids are a poor match for a ballista tower defended city if you sally.

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    that is true, though one of my worest defeat against the AI also came in this situation, I decided to throw everything at the two weaker sides first and just bombard the main bulk with cannons... but I was too slow, by the time i finished up the two sides the main enemy bulk ran right into my archer groups. which was uphill relative to my infantry group... so my infantry fought the enemy forces while downhill with all the archers / artillery routing past them or dead... woops. what's worse is that they tied up my general with war clerics and blundgeon him to death... woops. (in my haste to back back to my infantry i didn't notice the clerics until i was in melee.. ouch)
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    I personnally hate to suffer losses in my battles and so will try to use whatever works best to minimize those...

    I will generally try to secure some high ground to position my main infantry.

    Then I will be sending cav to deal with enemy missile or artillery, preferably lured forward of the enemy main line by my own advancing missiles (in loose formation...mind)

    Once almost all enemy missile units have been dealt with, I will send some heavy cav to deal with the weakest links in the enemy line, then retreating and charging back to make them rout...

    This way what finally reaches my main infantry line is greatly depleted is will msot often rout on contact or when charged in the flanks or back by the cavalry.

    As a defender in sieges, I tend to adopt a more agressive stance generally sallying and sending cav units out by the side gates to harass the AI and divert as much units as possible from their main assault.
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