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    What Ice did was religious discrimination
    How so ?
    Do the honesty and frankness of Einsteins assesment of the book the author sent him not stike you as very good and much better than many of his other more well known thoughts on the topic ? As such would they not raise your opinions on the man in relation to the topic ?

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    Default Re: Insight in into Einstein's beliefs in God and the Jewish people

    Quote Originally Posted by Tribesman
    How so ?
    Do the honesty and frankness of Einsteins assesment of the book the author sent him not stike you as very good and much better than many of his other more well known thoughts on the topic ? As such would they not raise your opinions on the man in relation to the topic ?
    Well personally I would say a real scientist would be best not speculating on something he can't apply his particular skillset to. Frankly I think Einstein's comments look like a man out of his depth and are not really any better than Pub Philosophy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tribesman
    How so ?
    Do the honesty and frankness of Einsteins assesment of the book the author sent him not stike you as very good and much better than many of his other more well known thoughts on the topic ? As such would they not raise your opinions on the man in relation to the topic ?
    I think God would say his thoughts in this letter are pretty wrong.
    So why would this raise my opinion about him?
    Just saying he's a better man because he's an atheist is IMO pretty stupid, that's similar to saying he's a better man because he prefers chocolate ice over vanilla ice which I'd call flavor discrimination.


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    Just saying he's a better man because he's an atheist is IMO pretty stupid
    But was he an atheist though ?
    How do you square that with his other comments on religeous/mystical philosophers ?
    A simple question for you Husar .
    This letter he wrote , what was it about ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tribesman
    This letter he wrote , what was it about ?
    Well, I didn't read it, has Ice read it?
    But I heard Gutkind used to send his philosophies to Einstein for his appraisal but then again that doesn't seem to have a lot to do with whether Ice is discriminating or not, your view and that of Ice seem to be based on the "fact" that atheism = correct but there are people who do not agree with that just like atheists do not agree with christians, buddhists etc. on their spiritual beliefs and my opinion is that this should be mostly taken out of judgement since we don't even really know why some people are more religious than others. One scientist I saw even said there's a part of our brain that seems to have an influence on how religious we are, so being religious is genetic and thus similar to being homosexual and saying that homosexuals are worse because they're homosexuals is pretty politically incorrect and thus saying a persona is worse for being religious is pretty politically incorrect which incidentally ends this argument for me here because it was not meant as a big deal anyway(I kinda like Ice you know, even though he's an atheist) and because Einstein was a great man anyway, no matter his religious beliefs.

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    your view and that of Ice seem to be based on the "fact" that atheism = correct
    OK one more small question Husar ..or actually a very big one .
    What is an atheist ?

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    Default Re: Insight in into Einstein's beliefs in God and the Jewish people

    Quote Originally Posted by Tribesman
    OK one more small question Husar ..or actually a very big one .
    What is an atheist ?
    Litterally it would be someone who holds no belief.
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    Litterally it would be someone who holds no belief.
    Nice try but no cigar .

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    Default Re: Insight in into Einstein's beliefs in God and the Jewish people

    Quote Originally Posted by Husar
    Well, I didn't read it, has Ice read it?
    But I heard Gutkind used to send his philosophies to Einstein for his appraisal but then again that doesn't seem to have a lot to do with whether Ice is discriminating or not, your view and that of Ice seem to be based on the "fact" that atheism = correct but there are people who do not agree with that just like atheists do not agree with christians, buddhists etc. on their spiritual beliefs and my opinion is that this should be mostly taken out of judgement since we don't even really know why some people are more religious than others. One scientist I saw even said there's a part of our brain that seems to have an influence on how religious we are, so being religious is genetic and thus similar to being homosexual and saying that homosexuals are worse because they're homosexuals is pretty politically incorrect and thus saying a persona is worse for being religious is pretty politically incorrect which incidentally ends this argument for me here because it was not meant as a big deal anyway(I kinda like Ice you know, even though he's an atheist) and because Einstein was a great man anyway, no matter his religious beliefs.

    Kthxbye.
    I'm not an atheist, Husar. Reread the wording of my post.
    Last edited by Ice; 05-16-2008 at 20:33.



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    Jewish atheism sounds like a contradiction in terms
    Perhaps thats because you don't understand the varied philosophies of atheism .
    Edit to add ...not of course that I can understand them as there are so many and lots of them seem to be directly contradictory of each other ...I suppose thats why philosophers have been tearing their own and each others beards out for thousands of years .
    Last edited by Tribesman; 05-16-2008 at 20:33.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tribesman
    Perhaps thats because you don't understand the varied philosophies of atheism .
    I never studied atheism.


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