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    This is a simple yes/no question of curiosity... Is Alexandropolis in Arachosia present-day Kandahar?
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    Alexandria in Arachosia was a city in ancient times that is now called Kandahar in Afghanistan. It was one of the seventy-plus cities founded or renamed by Alexander the Great. Arachosia is the Greek name of an ancient province of the Achaemenid, Seleucid and Parthian empires. The province of Arachosia corresponds to today's southestern Afghanistan and western Pakistan, the ethnic Pashtun territory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by artaxerxes
    This is a simple yes/no question of curiosity... Is Alexandropolis in Arachosia present-day Kandahar?

    Yes, it is.

    It would be useful that when you conquer a town, this kind of information was given to us. Indeed we learn nice quotes of Strabo but it would be great that you add some modern information like that.



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    More or less, yes. I'll bring you a nugget from the internal forums of EBH:

    Quote Originally Posted by Taken out of context
    ...Alexandropolis (Should change to Kapisa upon Saka; Upon Parthian capture it should change to Arghandab. Upon independence it should switch to Arachotos. This was the historical district of modern Kandahar, as Alexandria in Arachosia, situated along the Arachotus river)...


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    Ooh that's interesting. I've been there. :)
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    Then Seleuceia should change its name to Ctesiphon with Parthian conquest? I know they weren't ACTUALLY the SAME city, but they were nearby each other, and under the Parthians Seleuceia lost influence as Ctesiphon gained it.. Just a suggestion..

    (but then of course EVERYTHING could be changing names all the time and it might get rather confusing...)

    Actually think I just suggested it because I like the name Ctesiphon, and not out of any desire for historical accuracy or anything
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    I'm not going to say anything


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    Does the kandar element come from alexander or is there no connection?
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    That is a great question. It is perfectly possible; The area was known in Old Persian as Haurâvâtîsh (Arachosia), close to another satrapy, Haraivâ (Areia), and in some strange symbiosis Kandahar (Kanda-Har <-- Sekandara-Hara <-- Alexandreia Arachosia, in very, very vague reconstruction) could indeed mean in rough, paraphrased and abstracted terms "Alexandria in Arachosia". It has certainly been argued for.


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    Quote Originally Posted by artaxerxes
    Then Seleuceia should change its name to Ctesiphon with Parthian conquest? I know they weren't ACTUALLY the SAME city, but they were nearby each other, and under the Parthians Seleuceia lost influence as Ctesiphon gained it.. Just a suggestion..
    It's a good suggestion, but it would be an awful lot of work to create names for all cities in the language of all factions. Much of it would also be guess work.

    Not to mention that changing cities names confuses the EB script, which needs the external name to identify a city.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ludens
    It's a good suggestion, but it would be an awful lot of work to create names for all cities in the language of all factions. Much of it would also be guess work.

    Not to mention that changing cities names confuses the EB script, which needs the external name to identify a city.
    On second thought I don't wanna suggest it anyway... Just like the name Ctesiphon... But it would be a small aesthetic change, and its cost in the time of the gamemakers + the added size of the EB script wouldn't be worth it...

    And yes... what would the Sweboz name Seleuceia ?
    Moreover, I advise that Syracusans must be added to EB (insp. by Cato the Elder )

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    Who says anything about this feature being implemented? It was taken from a discussion thread hypothesizing on possibilities before being smashed by Soviet-volunteered tech-staff

    I wouldn't keep my hopes up


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    No, you wouldn't. <_<
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Persian Cataphract
    Who says anything about this feature being implemented?
    No one
    Moreover, I advise that Syracusans must be added to EB (insp. by Cato the Elder )

    Is looking forward to the 2090's, when EB 20.0 will be released - spanning the entire Eurasian continent and having no Eleutheroi - with a faction for every independent state instead. Look out for the Gedrosians, the Cretans and the kingdom of Kallatis!

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    If you need some help with additional regional research, I believe that the forum freakies (like me) can help.

    For example, I live in Mallorca (Majorica) and I have lots of local history books about the balearic slingers and their culture, and I can bring you some information about the city of Bocchoris (and of course the roman colonies of Palma and Pollentia) if you want.

    I think that there are here other guys that live in some cities or regions that also appear in the game, so they could give you some useful information about local history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Persian Cataphract
    That is a great question. It is perfectly possible; The area was known in Old Persian as Haurâvâtîsh (Arachosia), close to another satrapy, Haraivâ (Areia), and in some strange symbiosis Kandahar (Kanda-Har <-- Sekandara-Hara <-- Alexandreia Arachosia, in very, very vague reconstruction) could indeed mean in rough, paraphrased and abstracted terms "Alexandria in Arachosia". It has certainly been argued for.
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    The Persian Cataphract: Im sure its been asked before - are you Iranian/of Iranian ancestry?
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    I am an Iranian, yes.


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    If I may ask, are you a parsi?
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    ...This thread is turning into a corny biography.

    No, I'm atheist, though I do belong to one of Iran's handful of ethnical minorities. You can find out more about this enigmatic entity here.


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    At least they haven't thrown up an altar for you yet.
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    The cult of Jägermeister...?

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    Only pussies drink that stuff (TPC being one)


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