Feedback wanted!

[kitagata]

Hey, I was browsing the latest changes and noticed the Shadow Warriors don't have bomb sounds, and they make the archer fire sounds. So I went ahead and fixed it as well as added some 'ook ook' sounds for Son Goku. Check the file linked below.

http://files.filefront.com/sound+fix.../fileinfo.html

Also included two common use Indian tracks I was given and cut a little. Might be good for Krishnapur.

Has anyone considered adding a small horde unit based on gaki or the impish demons? You see it in lots of Asian myths and art, and I think it would be very fitting of the character of the Yomi.
It probably wouldn't take much more than copying and rescale-ing a skeleton and then modding the bakemono or hanya model a bit. Or maybe just use the kappa skeleton.

Here's what I mean: (tab open the links, as they don't like letting you go back.)
http://bp3.blogger.com/_uEwOmLfNbOk/...00-h/gaki1.jpg
http://bp1.blogger.com/_xQwP8MNj0EA/...1216_001_l.jpg
http://bp1.blogger.com/_xQwP8MNj0EA/...1900_001_l.jpg

To Saulot333, I'm just a party crasher on this mod so my words aren't worth anything, but I hope they accept your help. I remember the good fixes you had for the first beta.

[Rinsui]

Jesus! These pictures sure are beautiful. As for me, I don't mind having something small at all. The Bakemono would be quite befitting on a small scale as well, I guess - and it would add some sort of funny cuteness (image a horde of child-sized small devils bashing away at the knees of ever-severe, honourable and proud Akagi Duelists... admitted, it is a matter of taste, but I like the idea. I'll give it a shot with the Son Goku skeleton. We can always change back if it looks too stupid).
Btw, the Dragon-Warriors of the monks in the last release somehow managed to elude my censorship. They are not finished, just a sketch. Lets see whether I can give them revolving claws.
...-and thanks for the new Shadow Warrior sounds, as always.

P.S.: My wife will leave for a trip back to Japan for about a month beginning next monday - which might slow me down until then. You know, family>a>b>c...>x>y>BL (or at least I have to pretend to be of that opinion, haha!). The good news is: I will also be able to elude censorship for a month beginning next monday.

@Saulot: Your help is most appreciated. Please send me a PM, and we'll talk about details.

[kitagata]

That's funny, my wife is leaving Japan for the States next week. Anyway, here's a gaki texture and skeleton. Give it a look and see if it's worth using.

http://files.filefront.com/gaki+skel.../fileinfo.html

[Old Nick]

I've been away for a while and wow,I can't believe how much progress you made.This is amazing,guys.

Going to download and take alook at everything asap.

I've one further suggestion but I don't know if that might not have been brought up already:Teppo/Muskets
Would there be away to implement them, especially since there already are so many different projectiles ?I think they'd make a great addition to the mod and would be especially great to make the distinction between the progressive Zensen and conservative Akagi even clearer.

I would offer to try and make the models (using Hoggy's as base of course) but I haven't modded RTW for years and all I ever did where some small changes on models and skins (if there is anything like that I can help you with I would do so gladly btw).

Cheers

ON

[Rinsui]

The new Singijeon more or less is a very primitive "Teppo" for the Choson. In the fictional timframe of BLTW, gunpowder is something really new that was only recently invented by the Zhuanshi. From there, it spread to India (in its heavy guns), Yuwan (in its thunderbombers). The sneaky Yuwan in turn sold the secret of gunpowder to the Karazai (Mongols) in exchange for an alliance against their common archenemy - the beforementioned Zhuanshi. How the Choson fit into that transition is explained in the unit descriptions ^^.

[Old Nick]

Just tried out the Singijeon wow,perfect,I really loved the sounds,they were actually better than NTW2's - and even better than the Singijeon (because they were a pleasant surprise): the Hwacha ,really awesome.

I had some troubles though,at first the game would ctd,shortly after the first screen, show_err said nothing, worked with -nm though, so it seems there's a trouble with the intro/background vids.

The game also hung itself when I tested the indian guns, the Zhuanshi guns worked fine though (used EAX3).I like the cannon sounds, but they could be a tad louder and longer.

As for the Teppo, maybe they would make sense as an AOR unit in the territories of the Choson and/or Zhuanshi ?They could use the same projectiles as the Singijeon, the UI could be a problem though,well they're not that important anyway.

This mod is getting better and better, thank you very much !

Cheers,

ON

P.S.

Another Idea would be jungles,I know EB has them and the Crusades mod has them too, I saw a guide to implement them somewhere as well, too bad I'm so inept in any things code-related.If you need me for small modelling/texturing I'd be glad to help though.

[kitagata]

Dragon Warriors are pretty smooth. The game runs them, but on shutdown it gives a warning that they have different max ranges listed in different places, 18 or 30.

Also, I think you need to change any originally barbarian and roman culture units to a voice type other than light_1, except Son Goku and the Snow Monkeys. At the moment practically the entire Chinese army is making monkey howls.

Lastly, the chanting/praying animation and sounds work on all the monk units except the Sohei on foot and horseback. It doesn't seem to be skeleton or animation set based, as the Sadhu fanatics use the two handed set but can chant.

Again, the Dragon Warrors are a great idea, very cool.

EDIT: Realized that the reason the Shishi still use the horse sounds for charging and death from descr_sounds_units_anims is because the shishi's skeleton in descr_model_battle (fs_beast I think) points it at the horse 'event ANIM_...' entry.
I am unable to edit the skeleton, but if anyone knows how to change the skeleton so that it points at the CAMEL 'event ANIM' sounds in units_anims then everything would be fixed.

[shizzzm]

Just played the new base version today. Two words. Absolutely brilliant. However, I did note a problem that, while it did not hinder gameplay, still got on my nerves.

There seems to be a sprite problem with most units on the battle map; when I zoom out to command my armies, they all carry Akagi banners. The only units that don't seem to have this problem are the monks. Wierd.

Um, all the units on the campaign map seem to be dummies. Look like terra cotta warriors. Lol.

Also I felt that the Choson units were a bit bland compared to the other factions, and I was wondering if it was possible creating a sort of Phalanx unit with the Jangchang spears by giving them shields and the phalanx technique avaliable to the greek spearmen in Rome TW. Just a suggestion. Anyways, great job guys and thanks for the great mod!

[Rinsui]

Actually, the "Banners" they carry is the sprite of a chinese standard. Just a placeholder, as sprites will be implemented last. You know, there is always tiny tweaks and changes to be made until the very last minute, and generating sprites is an automatic process -> no need to waste time at this stage.
The stats of the Choson are not implemented yet, but I can say that much: they will have the very best ranged attack units (and a secret special Ship) of all nations. The dummies are, well... dummies. Campaign is next on the list.

[kitagata]

Hey, got some fun stuff today!
I put together sounds for the shambling undead in the Yomi army.
Here's the link to the sound and text files. Also included are fixes so the Krishnapur elephant units actually make sounds, AND fixes so only Son Goku and the Snow Monkies howl.

http://files.filefront.com/Undead+an.../fileinfo.html

I think the zombie sounds add tremendously to the feel of playing the Yomi. Really liking it.
Hope you feel the same.

[Rinsui]

Kitagata,
there's no need to comment your work. It's excellent as usual. However, the thing that impresses me most is the way you present it. Every zip you send contains a very well-structurated and informative readme. This saves me hours of time. Thank you.
So. This had to be noted once.

[shizzzm]

As I was playing the game, I could help but notice how the Choson General had the same model as the Chinese General.
Because all the other factions have original Generals, maybe the Koreans deserve a unique model too?
Anyways, here are some images I that depict the role of a Korean general well, just in case anyone takes my suggestion to consideration.




Btw, BL rocks.