Dread/Chivalry

**Irishmafia2020** · 05-18-2008, 04:50

Originally Posted by TheOmegaWalrus

Just call it "honor".

Problem solved.

Seconded... Honor vs Dread...

**lobf** · 05-18-2008, 05:47

Honor seems too vague to me. Influence is fairly definite. I mean, you can draw distinctions in amount of influence between two people, but not to much honor. Who's to say Caesar was more honorable than me?

**Irishmafia2020** · 05-18-2008, 06:40

Well honor vs dread represent different types of influence I suppose. Dread rules through fear, and Law and order are increased, whereas "honor" rules through love/loyalty and public order is increased through happiness... These are traits that affect the ability of a general to govern, and also these traits have morale effects on the battlefield... I admit that the definition of "honor" is vague...

**The General** · 05-18-2008, 08:05

Originally Posted by lobf

Honor seems too vague to me. Influence is fairly definite. I mean, you can draw distinctions in amount of influence between two people, but not to much honor. Who's to say Caesar was more honorable than me?

Why couldn't a dreadful person also have a lot of influence?

Honour would seem okay-ish imho.

**ziegenpeter** · 05-18-2008, 08:45

Please don't use this system for EBII. A ruler has to use both, dread and love.

**The Celtic Viking** · 05-19-2008, 14:09

Originally Posted by ziegenpeter

Please don't use this system for EBII. A ruler has to use both, dread and love.

I think you're looking at it the wrong way. Have you ever seen "Platoon"? Awesome movie. I love it. Anyway, there's these two characters in it, Sgt. Elias and Sgt. Barnes. If you have seen the movie, look at at them to see the difference, where Elias would obviously be on the "honour-scale" (I don't think that's a good name for it, though) while Barnes would be on the dread side. If you haven't seen it, go see it now. But to put it more simply for you, see it as "strongman" vs "win hearts and minds".

That's not to say that someone on the "win-hearts-and-minds" side would never try to use fear, or that someone on the "strongman" side wouldn't care what people thought of him. It's just which method they believe most in, which method they prefer. And how well they pull it off.