Marian reforms

**QuintusSertorius** · 05-27-2008, 13:37

Originally Posted by Korlon

I've heard that destroying just meant putting all your Polybian barracks on 100% damage. You'll have to destroy them yourself. Not sure if you can still continue using them though.

That's essentially my question; when they happen does it mean I'm forced to use Marian troops? I don't want a reform in 150BC removing my ability to continue using Polybian troops, for example.

In a way I don't think there's much danger of that, I won't even hit the lower 45 province requirement by 110BC. I'll only have 30-something sticking to historical expansion.

**Captain Trek** · 05-27-2008, 14:25

That's essentially my question; when they happen does it mean I'm forced to use Marian troops? I don't want a reform in 150BC removing my ability to continue using Polybian troops, for example.

In a way I don't think there's much danger of that, I won't even hit the lower 45 province requirement by 110BC. I'll only have 30-something sticking to historical expansion.

I actually have the same concern regarding the up-coming Polybian reforms in my Romani campaign because, and you probably won't believe this, I actually don't want to lose access to Rorarii... I'm not kidding! I love those guys...

**Korlon** · 05-27-2008, 14:28

Originally Posted by Captain Trek

I actually have the same concern regarding the up-coming Polybian reforms in my Romani campaign because, and you probably won't believe this, I actually don't want to lose access to Rorarii... I'm not kidding! I love those guys...

For those, if you just don't upgrade your barracks in a few select cities, you'll still have your lovable little Rorarii.

**Captain Trek** · 05-27-2008, 16:51

For those, if you just don't upgrade your barracks in a few select cities, you'll still have your lovable little Rorarii.

Thanks... just making sure...

I know... I love Rorarii... it's pathetic really...

**QuintusSertorius** · 05-27-2008, 17:27

The Marian reform isn't the same though, is it?

**GnaeusCotta** · 06-05-2008, 14:47

Is it possible for a patrician general to get the popularis treat?
because I only get sharp charismatic vigorous generals who are patrician.
I had 4 candidates of becoming the reformer but they were al patrician so I let them built temples of Cerces but all but one of them got optimas instead of popularis

**konny** · 06-05-2008, 15:04

Originally Posted by GnaeusCotta

Is it possible for a patrician general to get the popularis treat?

Yes.

**Titus Marcellus Scato** · 03-14-2010, 10:37

Originally Posted by Captain Trek

Thanks... just making sure...

I know... I love Rorarii... it's pathetic really...

Rorarii are really good skirmishers. Unlike Velites, they can hold their own in melee. Due to the larger number of men in the unit, and the larger quantity of javelin ammunition, a unit of Rorarii is better than a unit of Hastati.

**Mulceber** · 03-14-2010, 11:56

I wouldn't say they're better than Velites (or Hastati) - I think they have a purpose. If you have four units of Velites and put them in skirmish mode, they can inflict a LOT of damage on the enemy just by massed javelin fire. But you're right, they aren't very good at melee. Rorarii are, imo, useful for soaking up an enemy charge, although they are decent melee fighters in their own right. Personally though, I'd put Hastati above them any day. -M

**anubis88** · 03-14-2010, 13:14

An a bit off topic question. Once you hit the Imperial reforms, do you still have access to the cavalry auxilia? Or are they replaced by the ala imperatoria?