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Timoleon 19:54 05-18-2008
I have some difficulties choosing a favorable battlefield in my current EB 1.1 campaign.
I place my armies in places in the campaign map that seem to have an altitude advantage but when the battle starts in my surprise the enemy owns the high ground!
Does anyone have the same problem? Is there any way to positively know the landscape of the battlefield by examining the campaign map?

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Lysimachos 20:28 05-18-2008
Originally Posted by pcaravel:
I have some difficulties choosing a favorable battlefield in my current EB 1.1 campaign.
I place my armies in places in the campaign map that seem to have an altitude advantage but when the battle starts in my surprise the enemy owns the high ground!
Does anyone have the same problem? Is there any way to positively know the landscape of the battlefield by examining the campaign map?
If you position your army on top of a hill on the campaign map the hill will be in the middle of the battlefield, so you'd face uphill. If you position your army in a way that the top of the hill is behind it on campaign map, they will stand on higher ground in the battle.

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overweightninja 20:32 05-18-2008
This is kinda off topic but along the same lines so I'll ask here anyway...
Has anyone else noticed there seems to be more forest fights in 1.1? The amount of times I've picked a plain to fight on only for the battle map to load up and the whole area covered in trees, gets a little irritating (I HATE forest battles ).
Anyway is this just me?
Cheers

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Korlon 20:37 05-18-2008
I don't choose my battlefield. I just fight where ever, unless it's a damn forest map. I withdraw from those.

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Nobo 21:21 05-18-2008
Yea, I don't really choose a battlefield... i try to avoid forests, but that never really seems to work out anymore

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General Aetius 21:27 05-18-2008
overweightninja-You get a lot of open land in the east

general aetius

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Dhampir 21:37 05-18-2008
Originally Posted by overweightninja:
This is kinda off topic but along the same lines so I'll ask here anyway...
Has anyone else noticed there seems to be more forest fights in 1.1? The amount of times I've picked a plain to fight on only for the battle map to load up and the whole area covered in trees, gets a little irritating (I HATE forest battles ).
Anyway is this just me?
Cheers
Absolutely. If the battlefield ends up being a forest, I just quit and take the loss.

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Cartaphilus 21:48 05-18-2008
Originally Posted by Korlon:
I don't choose my battlefield. I just fight where ever, unless it's a damn forest map. I withdraw from those.
I do the same.

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-Praetor- 03:13 05-19-2008
Originally Posted by Cartaphilus:
I do the same.
Unless I`m a barbarian, in which case the battle turns out to be a gigantic ambush and head collecting fest.

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lobf 04:20 05-19-2008
Don't you lose men for withdrawing?

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Dhampir 05:32 05-19-2008
Originally Posted by lobf:
Don't you lose men for withdrawing?
And if you're out of movement points, you lose the whole army.

But it's better than fighting in those forests and not being able to see anything.

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Korlon 05:34 05-19-2008
Originally Posted by lobf:
Don't you lose men for withdrawing?
Manually withdraw, don't click escape and such, just press the withdraw button and wait for all your troops to run out of the battlefield; you won't lose any troops that way, unless you had that all troops will die if you lose thing, but I think you can't choose the withdraw button if that were the case.

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Timoleon 09:47 05-19-2008
Originally Posted by :
If you position your army in a way that the top of the hill is behind it on campaign map, they will stand on higher ground in the battle.
I'll try it out. Thanks Lysimache!

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Cartaphilus 13:31 05-19-2008
Originally Posted by k_raso:
Unless I`m a barbarian, in which case the battle turns out to be a gigantic ambush and head collecting fest.

When I play barbarians I search open fields too.
(I hate that nasty battles under the trees).

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Centurio Nixalsverdrus 13:39 05-19-2008
Blame it on me. It was me who urged them to resize the trees.



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saftglas 14:58 05-19-2008
NOO!!!! YOUUUUU!!!!!!

xD

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Dhampir 16:41 05-19-2008
Originally Posted by Centurio Nixalsverdrus:
Blame it on me. It was me who urged them to resize the trees.

Well, it's probably more accurately shows the difficulty of commanding troops in a forest.

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Nobo 16:52 05-19-2008
yea, I can see how it would be more realistic and all.... but still hehe

btw, whats the idea behind the balloons?

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Cambyses 17:15 05-19-2008
Yeah, some factions get a massive bonus fighting in forests. Most notably Lusotannan, they can get up to +4 moral while some enemies can get -2 or more?. That's a 6 point swing (for the mathematically challenged) and makes for an easy win against the hated Carthies or Romans.

Plus it really makes cavalry and missile troops less powerful, so you cant use the same tactics you use on open ground. Overall, forest battles are annoying but ignoring them does cut a big chunk out of the game IMO...

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Cartaphilus 17:31 05-19-2008
Nothing better than a charge in the open field.

And for the bridge battles, now (unless I'm in a great numerical inferiority) I do as the saxons in Maldon battle, I let the enemies cross and I give them a fair fight.

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Dhampir 17:40 05-19-2008
Originally Posted by Cartaphilus:
Nothing better than a charge in the open field.

And for the bridge battles, now (unless I'm in a great numerical inferiority) I do as the saxons in Maldon battle, I let the enemies cross and I give them a fair fight.
On a bridge, I put a few strong units at the end of the bridge and the enemy crowds onto it. Then I find a ford and flank them with the bulk of my army. Encircle them and destroy them.

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Cartaphilus 17:48 05-19-2008
Originally Posted by Dhampir:
On a bridge, I put a few strong units at the end of the bridge and the enemy crowds onto it. Then I find a ford and flank them with the bulk of my army. Encircle them and destroy them.

Too easy. I'm tired of that.
Now I let them pass untroubled and fight in open field.

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LorDBulA 18:24 05-19-2008
Battles in forests are fun, unless you are cavalry heavy or fight in one of the very dense forests with huge trees.
Still in many cases even in tree heavy map you can find small or medium openings in the trees and fight there, it looks really amazing. Add to it few small hills on the map and you get very interesting terrain.
Plain flat maps are just boring.

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Nirvanish 19:56 05-19-2008
Just last week I was playing in my Dacian Campaign and fighting somewhere just north of the starting province, wow such unformitable terrain. Not only did I have to contend with crazy slopes but giant forests as well, its a shame you can't really hinder the computer in these battles as much as a player but it is good that they be given advantage in some other ways.

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Korlon 21:35 05-19-2008
Originally Posted by LorDBulA:
Battles in forests are fun, unless you are cavalry heavy or fight in one of the very dense forests with huge trees.
Still in many cases even in tree heavy map you can find small or medium openings in the trees and fight there, it looks really amazing. Add to it few small hills on the map and you get very interesting terrain.
Plain flat maps are just boring.
I fight in those if they are available, though once an enemy unit just didn't seem to move and it took me ages to find that little hiding critter.

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Megas Methuselah 03:29 05-20-2008
Originally Posted by LorDBulA:
Battles in forests are fun, unless you are cavalry heavy or fight in one of the very dense forests with huge trees.
Still in many cases even in tree heavy map you can find small or medium openings in the trees and fight there, it looks really amazing. Add to it few small hills on the map and you get very interesting terrain.
Plain flat maps are just boring.
I migrated to Carthage as the Pahlava yesterday and fought a battle just outside of Utica. Much to my surprise, despite there being so signs of it on the campaign map, the battlefield was a huge forest.

Yeah, I withdrew.

Originally Posted by Dhampir:
Well, it's probably more accurately shows the difficulty of commanding troops in a forest.
Can I please have that balloon?


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Timoleon 07:41 05-20-2008
Originally Posted by :
Yeah, some factions get a massive bonus fighting in forests. Most notably Lusotannan, they can get up to +4 moral while some enemies can get -2 or more?
I didn't know that! This make my heroic victories is Iberia even more...heroic.
Which other factions get these bonuses? The Gauls?

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Ibrahim 04:26 05-21-2008
in my case, I will quote Robert E. lee in the movie Gettysburg:

"from Behind, in front, we will attack the enemy wherever he is"

I don't care where; I just fight..

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Dhampir 05:03 05-21-2008
Originally Posted by Ibrahim:
in my case, I will quote Robert E. lee in the movie Gettysburg:

"from Behind, in front, we will attack the enemy wherever he is"

I don't care where; I just fight..
Do you wear a really bad fake beard as you do it.

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Ibrahim 05:10 05-21-2008
Originally Posted by Dhampir:
Do you wear a really bad fake beard as you do it?
dream on dhampir

actually, if you could obtain for me a union army uniform (say 8th Ohio), that would be what I'd wear to EB.

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