Eurovision.

[Centurio Nixalsverdrus]

Strange??? Dat bard dinna' luk na Polish?

Woas redst doa, i hob nie wos gsagt...

The bad thing is that the only abroad-Germans are in Oberbayern (that Oberbayern on Mallorca I'm talking of), and so the only ones who vote for us are "the brave Spaniards".

[cegorach]

If you are thinking that those people abroad have so much interest in Eurovision and in voting for their countries, I am afraid it is not really true.

Just think why Poland didn't qualify to the finals for last three years despite supposedly huge number of dedicated supporters abroad.

I cannot speak for other nations - but at least with us there was no difference seen of felt in any results, especially when the migration was at its peak - now it is no more so large.

Of course that just give some people another excuse to see a conspiracy and dirty tricks everywhere. I recall the rumours in Russia why Ukraine won some time ago - because Ukrainians abroad voted for their country - which proved, yet again to be completely not true.

[Centurio Nixalsverdrus]

I don't recall exactly the results of Poland, and I won't deny that the voting behaviour has at least something to do with the music. But I'll give the following hint: The biggest foreign communities in Germany are Turkish, then Russian and Polish. And Turkey always gets 12 points from Germany (wonder why the native Germans always like the Turkish songs best, hehe), followed by one or two of these nations, depending on which had the nicer song.

I think East Europe and West Europe should perhaps make each their own song contest. So each group could stick to its favourite style of music, the easterners to their polka / lonesome goat herder / steppe dance music, and the westerners to their usual poppy fancy dance übergay music. Not that I like either one these types.

[cegorach]

I think East Europe and West Europe should perhaps make each their own song contest. So each group could stick to its favourite style of music, the easterners to their polka / lonesome goat herder / steppe dance music, and the westerners to their usual poppy fancy dance übergay music. Not that I like either one these types.

I didn't knw there was any favourite style we could find - I believe that the poorest and most popular Czech music is equally popular in Germany and Austria so perhaps they also should make their own competition who sucks more ?


And where is the supposed border between both parts of Europe ?

Legacy of the Roman Empire includes half of former Yugoslavia, Bulgaria and Romania.

Christianity all except Turkey and Albania.

Catholic-Protestant area would exclude only the said two states + the orthodox countries.

Latin alphabet, renessaince, baroque, democratic traditions, political systems, free market economy, EU membership, NATO, Ottoman conquests, beer vs wine ?

In any of those something critical is missing.

Of course unless of course you are going to rebuild the Iron Curtain because what is exactly a difference between Irish sheep herders and Bulgarian sheep herders now - both sing equally badly after a couple of drinks whatever...





The show is bad and I have stopped watching it since the time English could be chosen as the singing language, but voting is still something I enjoy and you personally have a problem with ex-Yugoslavia voting for each other i suggest to split like they did.




I for once really enjoy Balcan folk music - when it appears I suppose it is a nice change from the generally poor show offered by virtually everyone in this competition.

[Centurio Nixalsverdrus]

I didn't knw there was any favourite style we could find - I believe that the poorest and most popular Czech music is equally popular in Germany and Austria so perhaps they also should make their own competition who sucks more ?

What czech music? I don't know anything specifically czech, really. The Czechs I saw yesterday made bad western-style disco song.

And where is the supposed border between both parts of Europe ?

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Of course unless of course you are going to rebuild the Iron Curtain...

You gave yourself the answer, nothing more simple than that.

The show is bad and I have stopped watching it since the time English could be chosen as the singing language, but voting is still something I enjoy and you personally have a problem with ex-Yugoslavia voting for each other i suggest to split like they did.

Good idea, I maybe propose it (at least for Eurovision).

[cegorach]

What czech music? I don't know anything specifically czech, really. The Czechs I saw yesterday made bad western-style disco song.

Ohhh, just have a look around how many bad Czech singers sell lots of records in southern Germany (Bavaria) and Austria.

You gave yourself the answer, nothing more simple than that.

SO Iron Curtain rebuilt ?

FIne, but this time you are going to live under the totalitarian rule.

Good idea, I maybe propose it (at least for Eurovision).

You already have two German language states (+ a part of Switzerland).

Congratulations Poland! The only Eastern European country stuck with the poor Westerners at the bottom... And congratulations Norway, your song was bad but hey, perhaps they just mixed up their results and the Polish results??

I must admit it has shown everything but a single thing I was talking about. Apparently we voted for ourselves this time.
Even our traditional supporters didn't vote for us this time, well maybe next time.

Good I was watching '24' on DVD and forgot about the show entirely.

[Marius Dynamite]

I usually watch Eurovision because I like to see what Europe is up to. I assume countries like France and Spain are in the same boat as UK, i.e the artists have accepted they won't win and it would be career suicide to enter while the Eastern countries enter their best acts, is that right?


Anyway all the songs seem generally poor. I had a lot of respect for Turkey (at least I think it was Turkey) because they dared enter artists who knew how to play instruments. I think they were a band. Awesome - actual musicians, shame it wasnt in English, then I may have liked it :( Or not, who knows?

I thought Greece was pretty poor, I couldn't see how it got so many votes.

I hope people don't think UK's entry was what people here listen to. That would be depressing, we have so much better music.

Now I ask this question, if you could choose any singer and song to enter for your country, who would you put in?

I would probably put in 'The Hoosiers' with either Goodbye Mr. A or Worried about Ray because I think the upbeat nature of the songs would win over some eastern votes and because they are real musicians who play instuments AND sing at the same time! Probably wouldnt win though. One of the band is from Stockholm, is that allowed?

Celtic vs Rangers and similar clashes do not really count I am afraid.

Its not a war anyway, they just hate us I'm afraid.

P.S. Latvia was awesome but their song is a football chant! (thats why its awesome)

[Craterus]

We'd win if we entered this.

[Moros]

I'd actually vote that guy, if it weren't for Finland.

[InsaneApache]

We'd win if we entered this.

By gum that takes me back to my twenties. When I was in-between wives, I dated a loverly Irish gal who misheard his name on the radio. She thought he was called Rick Athlete. Always raises a smile when I see him and remember that.

[shlin28]

... and Russia won!

I liked the Greek one though.