Cavalery question

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Matinius Brutus 00:25 05-23-2008

Am I mistaken or is it really the best cavalery weapon the horse( over the kontos, lance etc.)?

lobf 00:28 05-23-2008

As hard as I've tried, I've never been able to stab anyone with my horse

Matinius Brutus 00:32 05-23-2008

Maybe you should try and run him over :)
And moreover I doubt you have a horse!!!
Sorry, if this sounded offensive, I am just drunk and goddamn proud of it!!!!!

lobf 01:01 05-23-2008

Originally Posted by Matinius Brutus:
Maybe you should try and run him over :)
And moreover I doubt you have a horse!!!
Sorry, if this sounded offensive, I am just drunk and goddamn proud of it!!!!!

I'm deeply offended.

In all seriousness, though, I really don't know the answer to your question. I assume a more massive horse would have more momentum in a charge, but that the effectiveness of cavalry is dependent on all of their equipment (weapons, armor, and stirrups later on, etc.)

johnhughthom 03:20 05-23-2008

Originally Posted by lobf:
As hard as I've tried, I've never been able to stab anyone with my horse

You've obviously never used the Bartix general unit then, mounted on unicorns...

sorry, lame joke

Spartan198 04:04 05-23-2008

Well, you wouldn't be cavalry without a horse.

Captain Trek 04:40 05-23-2008

Originally Posted by :
Well, you wouldn't be cavalry without a horse.

*Cough*camels*cough*

Korlon 04:42 05-23-2008

And those cute, sparkly elephants as well.

And, recently, tanks.

The Persian Cataphract 13:00 05-23-2008

Or giraffes.

Ludens 13:07 05-23-2008

I don't think we really know this. It's not as if there are statistics as to how many soldiers died of horse-inflicted injuries. However, the main weapons of cavalry were mobility and shock, rather than any hand-held or rein-held weapons.

Jaume 15:06 05-23-2008

Originally Posted by :
*Cough*camels*cough*

Originally Posted by :
And those cute, sparkly elephants as well.

And, recently, tanks.

Originally Posted by :
Or giraffes.

In its etymology, the word "caballus" (from where "cavalry" comes) was first used around S.III aC, replacing the Latin word "equus" (which is Classical Latin). Around those years the same process happened to words like "magnus" (great), who had been replaced for "grandis", "ludere" (to play), who had been replaced for "jocare", or "cruor" (blood) who had been replaced for "sanguis".

And yes, "equus" means exactly HORSE. So I assume that cavalry it's only about horses. Camels, elephants, tanks, giraffes and tanks driven by giraffes are called, in Spanish, "tropas montadas", which literally means "Ridden troops".

Foot 15:13 05-23-2008

Cavalry was used to designate soldiers mounted on horseback, it was not usually extended to other animals such as camels, elephants or giraffes. In modern warfare Cavalry now designates units that fill the roles previously assigned to light-horse or cavalry regiments. Units that fill the roles of heavy cavalry are referred to as armour (or "armor" if you are a "u" hating American).

Foot

The Persian Cataphract 15:24 05-23-2008

...Deviating from my oh-so-funny humour, this is also partly why there are a few constructs applying to other mount animals; Cavalry is clearly derivated from, as Jaume pointed out, from the latin "equus". Equus Caballus is actually a biological designation for the horse, which ultimately gives the military unit as mounted on horse-back "Cavalry".

Hence the following:

Chariots: Chariotry
Camels: Camelry
Elephants: Elephantry

And finally, the beloved giraffalry.

Nirvanish 19:16 05-23-2008

Originally Posted by The Persian Cataphract:
And finally, the beloved giraffalry.

LOL

Jaume 19:28 05-23-2008

I do demand a giraffalry unit in Europa Barbarorum NOW

Strategos Alexandros 11:51 05-25-2008

Originally Posted by Jaume:
I do demand a giraffalry unit in Europa Barbarorum NOW .

In Europe?

You'd need to make Savannah Total War.

Spartan198 14:22 05-25-2008

Originally Posted by Jaume:
I do demand a giraffalry unit in Europa Barbarorum NOW .

Seconded!

anelious phyros 14:24 05-25-2008

Originally Posted by Originally Posted by Jaume
I do demand a giraffalry unit in Europa Barbarorum NOW .Spartan198:
Seconded!

Maybe we could put Samari on them or something....?

Spartan198 03:38 05-31-2008

Well, it's been eight days now. Where's our EB giraffalry unit?

russia almighty 04:56 05-31-2008

What is horses riding tanks?

btw, what did the Grivpanvar say when he saw a leopard II?

Spartan198 05:50 05-31-2008

Originally Posted by russia almighty:
What is horses riding tanks?

The ultimate heavy cavalry unit, I guess...

Aside from giraffalry, I mean.

the tokai 08:55 05-31-2008

Originally Posted by russia almighty:
What is horses riding tanks?

Armoured cavalry.

Spartan198 09:14 05-31-2008

Originally Posted by the tokai:
Armoured cavalry.

Wouldn't that technically be tanks riding horses instead?

The Persian Cataphract 22:07 05-31-2008

Originally Posted by russia almighty:
btw, what did the Grivpanvar say when he saw a leopard II?

The Grivpanvar says "Two thousand years later and that's it?"

MerlinusCDXX 02:44 06-01-2008

Originally Posted by russia almighty:
What is horses riding tanks?

btw, what did the Grivpanvar say when he saw a leopard II?

Gods, what an ugly horse. Hey, does that thing move any faster?

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