Installation Discussion

**TinCow** · 05-10-2008, 15:24

SS 4.1 seems to be winning pretty convincingly in the confirmation poll. I understand the concerns about CTDs, but they seem very rare and can be worked around even when they occur. I think we'll be fine without worrying about this.

I would like to hammer out the other changes we are going to use and get them working. First on the list is the AI. SS 4.1 uses Ultimate AI 1.5 for the Campaign AI and Darth Mod 1.4B for the Battle AI. Are these ok? Are there better AI mods out now that we should be using?

*Draft Installation Directions*

1) Install a clean copy of M2TW.
2) Install the M2TW 1.2 Patch.
3) Install the M2TW 1.3 Patch.
4) Install Stainless Steel 4.0.
5) Install the Stainless Steel 4.1 Patch.
6) *AI Mods, to be decided*
7) *Custom mod for the game, for stuff like RBG recruiting, etc.*

**Privateerkev** · 05-10-2008, 16:48

Can we get directions on how to have multiple copies of M2TW on your computer?

I have Kingdoms and patch 1.5 and I am not going back.

However I do have tons of HD space and don't mind having multiple copies of the game on my computer.

Please make directions as "noob proof" as possible for those like me who are computer illiterate.

**Zim** · 05-10-2008, 21:59

We found out in the Grand Campaign hotseat that vanilla saves are compatible between 1.3 and 1.5, so it might not be necessary.

Are we sure about the ai mods included in 4.1? The list of changes between the 4.0 and 4.1 says this:

- Real Combat 1.21
- Lusted's battle AI
- Vanilla campaign AI

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=110425

**TinCow** · 05-10-2008, 22:02

Hm, that's strange. Under The Campaign AI it says "Ultimate AI 1.5" and under Battles is says "Darth Mod 1.4B battle AI and physics." We'll need to look into this.

**Zim** · 05-10-2008, 22:05

Scroll down a bit to this section to see changes from the 4.1 patch.

Stainless Steel 4.1 Patch Features

4.1 Changes & Bug fixes

Originally Posted by TinCow

Hm, that's strange. Under The Campaign AI it says "Ultimate AI 1.5" and under Battles is says "Darth Mod 1.4B battle AI and physics." We'll need to look into this.

**Privateerkev** · 05-10-2008, 22:13

Originally Posted by Zim

We found out in the Grand Campaign hotseat that vanilla saves are compatible between 1.3 and 1.5, so it might not be necessary.

Right but I think SS 4 only works with vanilla and not Kingdoms. Would like confirmation on this though. Which means I would either have to uninstall Kingdoms (no way), or dual install. (which I have no problem with as long as I get a little help.)

**Zim** · 05-10-2008, 22:23

I've had no problem with it at all and I have Kingdoms.

Originally Posted by Privateerkev

Right but I think SS 4 only works with vanilla and not Kingdoms. Would like confirmation on this though. Which means I would either have to uninstall Kingdoms (no way), or dual install. (which I have no problem with as long as I get a little help.)

**Privateerkev** · 05-11-2008, 03:03

Originally Posted by Zim

I've had no problem with it at all and I have Kingdoms.

awesome...

**Ituralde** · 05-13-2008, 14:47

Originally Posted by TinCow

*Draft Installation Directions*

1) Install a clean copy of M2TW.
2) Install the M2TW 1.2 Patch.
3) Install the M2TW 1.3 Patch.
4) Install Stainless Steel 4.0.
5) Install the Stainless Steel 4.1 Patch.
6) *AI Mods, to be decided*
7) *Custom mod for the game, for stuff like RBG recruiting, etc.*

Just a short point concerning 3).
I'm a little confused, because the installation instructions for SS 4.0/4.1 say that M2TW 1.2 is needed.

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=110425

So do we need 1.3 now, or 1.2? Maybe that's the reason why the tooltips didn't show up in my SS version, which I installed on top of 1.2, following the official instructions.

Just curious.

Ituralde

**TinCow** · 05-13-2008, 15:07

1.3 is simply a compatability patch for Kingdoms. AFAIK, it shouldn't impact the game in any other way. We're simply using it as a convenience for people who may also have Kingdoms installed on their system, just as we did with KOTR.

**TinCow** · 05-18-2008, 19:34

So, are we happy with the AI packages bundled with SS 4.1?

**Ferret** · 05-18-2008, 21:40

I am

**Zim** · 05-19-2008, 00:47

Did we ever check into the possible issue I mentioned before?

Originally Posted by Zim

Are we sure about the ai mods included in 4.1? The list of changes between the 4.0 and 4.1 says this:

Stainless Steel 4.1 Patch Features

4.1 Changes & Bug fixes

- Real Combat 1.21
- Lusted's battle AI
- Vanilla campaign AI

Scroll down a bit to see the section showing changes from 4.0 to 4.1 patch.

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=110425