OOC Thread and Chatroom

[00jebus]

Here is Ituralde's SOT: "Garrison: To remain at 1 unit of Town Militia, 1 unit of Spear Militia, 1 unit of Armenian Cavalry, and 1 unit of Alan Light Horsemen."

So, unless Ituralde PM'd 00jebus and ok'd it, it is quite illegal.

People need to double-check the SOT's before they make moves.

My bad, I didn't check the SO, sorry Ituralde

[Ituralde]

I don't want to pile on blame or anything so please consider this to be apart from the discussion before and on a general note from the ever-inquiring Ituralde.

Does the SoT even play into this? Isn't the only one who is allowed to put people from a garrison under his command a character who has the requirements for a Royal or Private Army and the Megas Logothetes? Meaning that even if I had written nothing in the SoT, that would only mean that I would allow the Megas to mess around with the garrison of my city, but not every character who happens to stumble into my town? Am I seeing this right, or am I missing the point?

Ituralde, once again trying to find out the limits of characters!

[00jebus]

the rules say without a posted build que, the megas can build whatever he wants in a characters settlement, I'd presume that without a SO post detailing armies and garrisons, the megas can do whatever he wants with them too.

But that, isn't in the rules, thankfully everyone with an army or settlement has an SO, so that problem shouldn't come up unless we get alot of new players who rise up the ranks very quickly but dont post an SO for whatever reason.

[Ituralde]

It's not about what the Megas can do, but about what every character can do. I think that no matter the SoT a character can do literally nothing with your settlement and its garrison, but I'm not sure, hence my question.

[_Tristan_]

I would agree with you... The SoT relates only to what the Megas can do or allows other people to do with your avatar and any units he has with him...

At least that is how I see it...

[deguerra]

and breathe...

good god you people make me read a lot. I was gone for five days! Five days, not weeks. You people right enough to fill a novel in that space of time.

obviously expect to hear from ioannis soon, but I have to figure stuff out first.

good to be back.

[Ferret]

Yeah sorry Tristan, after posting that I remembered what a mess M2 makes of ages and dates...

[_Tristan_]

There is some foot stomping to be done, deguerra...

[_Tristan_]

@ EF : Let's just say you never added that comment...

and we'll forget I got your avatar's age wrong...

[_Tristan_]

@ KoP : Recruitment will not impact Iconium' population growth as M2TW got rid of that RTW feature, thank heavens...

[Dafuge]

Oh did it, crap, it sound OK IC though.

[_Tristan_]

No problem, just for your info...

[Andres]

Are we going to lynch Hypatios?

[_Tristan_]

Hang him, I say...

[Dafuge]

I say all senators just charge at him in multiplayer, that would be fun.

[woad&fangs]

We could always lock him up in a monastery.

[_Tristan_]

We could always lock him up in a monastery.

Yes, something like this...

[Dafuge]

I liked the idea of exiling him on one of the Greek Islands with a watch tower on.

[Privateerkev]

I don't want to pile on blame or anything so please consider this to be apart from the discussion before and on a general note from the ever-inquiring Ituralde.

Does the SoT even play into this? Isn't the only one who is allowed to put people from a garrison under his command a character who has the requirements for a Royal or Private Army and the Megas Logothetes? Meaning that even if I had written nothing in the SoT, that would only mean that I would allow the Megas to mess around with the garrison of my city, but not every character who happens to stumble into my town? Am I seeing this right, or am I missing the point?

Ituralde, once again trying to find out the limits of characters!

Here is the pertinent part of the rules:

1.4 – Game Management: At the start of each turn, the Megas Logothetes will post an annual report on the events of the last turn, including a save game file for the new turn. After the annual report is posted, players will have 24 hours to download the save, and make their personal moves. Players can move their avatars, move any army (Private, Royal, or otherwise) their avatar commands, move any military units that start the turn inside a settlement they control (garrison units), move any military units that start the turn inside a fort in a province they control (fort units), and fight any battles against the AI that they are capable of fighting with their avatar’s army.

Therefore, the only person who can take units out of Sinop is the Megas and Ituralde. And due to Ituralde's SOT, the Megas would have to leave the units listed but he can take out any others until Ituralde says different. The only legal way 00jebus could have taken those men out is if Ituralde gave him permission.

Are we going to lynch Hypatios?

That should be figured out IC. If we do, there is a game mechanic for this but it would be a little clunky in this case. Basically, everyone would declare civil war on him and Asteri would break their oaths to/from him. Then he would be hunted. I don't know of any quicker way unless EF wants to suicide the avatar.

[_Tristan_]

I've re-read the rules but I haven't been able to find a single indication of what exactly can be done during Emergency Senate session nor what is needed to call one ?

[Dafuge]

On a lighter, WOOP 10 Loyalty lol, does this mean I am loyal to the Order or the Emperor as it will be interesting if Civil war break out.

[Cecil XIX]

He could always make his way to Norway, exterminate it, and found the Exarchate of Scandinavia.

[Privateerkev]

I've re-read the rules but I haven't been able to find a single indication of what exactly can be done during Emergency Senate session nor what is needed to call one ?

The Emperor, Dux, and Exarch, can call one. Then we pass legislation if we want.

On a lighter, WOOP 10 Loyalty lol, does this mean I am loyal to the Order or the Emperor as it will be interesting if Civil war break out.

It is up to you to define your traits. They mean what you want them to mean. It could mean your loyal to the Emperor, the Emperor's cat, the Order, your province, your friends, yourself, the world, anything.

[Rowan]

On a lighter, WOOP 10 Loyalty lol, does this mean I am loyal to the Order or the Emperor as it will be interesting if Civil war break out.

IIRC, at least regarding oath breaking and such vassals are loyal to their immediate liege lord (so if B breaks his oath to A then all of B's vassals (C) and vassals of vassals (D) follow B to the new structure).

For RP purposes I think it's up to the player how he wishes to play it (or not).

edit: beaten by the posting machine that is PK

[Privateerkev]

IIRC, at least regarding oath breaking and such vassals are loyal to their immediate liege lord (so if B breaks his oath to A then all of B's vassals (C) and vassals of vassals (D) follow B to the new structure).

Yup. You take your chain with. (unless they then want to break their oaths and swear to someone else.)

edit: beaten by the posting machine that is PK

[Dafuge]

OK, I think I'll keep it hidden for now.

[AussieGiant]

Oh PK, why are we going down this path again.

It was such a wonderful time until now.

[Privateerkev]

Oh PK, why are we going down this path again.

It was such a wonderful time until now.

It made sense IC. Mak really did not like hearing some of that stuff. Having the lives of people broken down into legalese made him cranky...

And our situations as compared to KotR are quite reversed...

Let day two of "As the Magnaura turns..." begin!

[_Tristan_]

It has already got quite a spin if you ask me...

[Privateerkev]

It has already got quite a spin if you ask me...

I tend to make things spin faster when I jump in... ;)