OOC Thread and Chatroom

[AussieGiant]

LOL,

See what happens when the guy who should know...made an error...

While PK's skills at absorbing large amounts of text and determining the correct "meaning" as defined by TC's brain...how many "other" players are able to do this?

I'm struggling...that's for sure.

Knowing the rules and understanding the correct meaning as it applies to all the situation faced on a turn by turn basis will mean more than a few requests to "go back in time" and redo because the Megas got it wrong. No?

[TheFlax]

I'll spawn an avatar for you. What city would you like to start in?

Smyrna, please.

[Ituralde]

I just want to add I'm glad we had this conversation as it has once again given me a better grasp of the situation. We will always be blending IC and OOC, it's unavoidable but a common baseline is a good thing. I think we have found that now, everything else will be IC dealings. And I feel I can handle these situations much more comfortable should I ever get in the position of Megas!

[TinCow]

Barring an extraordinarily grievous error that seriously screws up the game, there will be no time travel in this game. I know the rules are complex, so I'm doing my best to clarify them whenever there's a question. I will continue to do this for the entire duration of the game. So, just do your best to abide by them, ask me questions either publicly or via PM if you are confused, and we'll just roll with the punches. All problems that can be fixed IC will be resolved in that manner, even if they had OOC origins. Everything else will be resolved in whatever manner will disrupt the game the least.

Remember, we do this to have fun, not to grind away at rules and regulations for their own sake. Let's try to be a little flexible where we can and tolerant of unintentional errors.

[Privateerkev]

LOL,

See what happens when the guy who should know...made an error...

While PK's skills at absorbing large amounts of text and determining the correct "meaning" as defined by TC's brain...how many "other" players are able to do this?

I'm wrong at this far more often than I'd like. I do absorb the text, but I frequently miss what it was that TC actually meant, and need for him to correct me. Hence why I put questions and analysis in here so much. I figure we all could benefit from the rules being made more clear.

I'm struggling...that's for sure.

I think we all are.

Knowing the rules and understanding the correct meaning as it applies to all the situation faced on a turn by turn basis will mean more than a few requests to "go back in time" and redo because the Megas got it wrong. No?

I think what is more likely, is that the player who is the Megas, or TC will get requests to edit things using console commands. I know this has already happened, since I was the one who sent the request. Last term, I had Nicosia set up to get a "land-clearance" but OK put roads in the build queue. Thinking it was some sort of diabolical Byzantine plot against my character, I asked OK and TC OOC if they could fix it with the console commands. Much to my surprise, roads being in the queue was simply an OOC mistake on OK's part. He let me put land-clearance in ahead of the half-built roads and all was well.

So, if you think a rule was actually broken, just talk to the Megas player and/or TC and I'm sure it will get straightened out somehow.

[AussieGiant]

I agree with the last three posts from you all

Hell guy's it's Ituralde, TC, PK and myself...it's not as if we haven't done this before over the last two years or so...plus we know each other more than is normal on a message board.

Anyway, good discussion,

I can only imagine what the other 20 odd players thought of it

[Privateerkev]

Iplus we know each other more than is normal on a message board.

I know many of you better than I know people in "real life". I don't know whether this is an indication over how close many of us have become over the course of PBM's, hotseats, and mafia games, or an indication that I need to get off the computer more. ;)

Anyway, good discussion,

I can only imagine what the other 20 odd players thought of it

I'm assuming everyone else just sits by frozen in stark terror.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Ibn-Khaldun sits frozen in stark terror.

Now ..

Could we just start over again and in plain human this time please??

[Privateerkev]

Could we just start over again and in plain human this time please??

The rules tell you what you can and can't do. The rules tell the player who is running the game for 10 turns what he can and can't do. If you have questions, post them on here and/or PM TinCow.

For you, the rules will be fairly simple. You will have control of your "character" and his unit of bodyguards. You have full control over his "story" and his personality, traits, ect...

First off, decide if you want to join one of the existing political structures. This will give you characters to interact with and things to do. You do not have to join anything. But your options will be quite limited unless you can convince the player who is running things right now (FlyDude) to give you an army.

Feel free to send IC letters to people. IC means "in character" and you will be speaking as your character. Everyone here is good about responding to IC correspondance unless they are busy in real life.

Read the rules again. When you think you have a good grasp of the rules, read them a third time. Ask more questions when you can't figure out what rules mean.

The most important part to remember, is to add a smiley to every post. I can not stress this enough. It is absolutely essential that you do this. No excuses will be tolerated.

[flyd]

Hi. Your Megas Logothetes asks you very nicely not to exploit any personal army loopholes while the Empire is under serious attack from all sides.

Thank you.

[Privateerkev]

Hi. Your Megas Logothetes asks you very nicely not to exploit any personal army loopholes while the Empire is under serious attack from all sides.

Pffttt...

That's the best time to exploit personal army loopholes...

[_Tristan_]

Hi. Your Megas Logothetes asks you very nicely not to exploit any personal army loopholes while the Empire is under serious attack from all sides.

Thank you.

Could wa ask our Megas vey politely to answer the PM sent his way ?

[Ferret]

@Andres: isn't Anastasion (lemon) in Belgrade? Kosmas is safely holed up in Athens ATM.

[Privateerkev]

@Andres: isn't Anastasion (lemon) in Belgrade? Kosmas is safely holed up in Athens ATM.

My guess was that the mistake was intentional. Since you have now spoiled Andres's uber-plot, you will be subject to years of harrassment. It will probably have to do with mafia-game spam.

I fear for you...

[Andres]

@Andres: isn't Anastasion (lemon) in Belgrade? Kosmas is safely holed up in Athens ATM.

Let's blame it on the chaos caused by the sudden appearance of barbaric hordes at our borders, shall we (--> see, you don't always need that damnable clown smiley! And there are even more options: )

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Just want to know something ..
What dose those IC and OOC actually mean??

IC- in character??
OOC - out of character??

Am I right?

[Andres]

Just want to know something ..
What dose those IC and OOC actually mean??

IC- in character??
OOC - out of character??

Am I right?

You are right

Btw... let me tell you something that clown smiley is not at all necessary, you know. I have it on good sources that those who do not use it, will get more provinces IC then others. But Let's keep that our little secret. Don't tell it to PK and EF

[Privateerkev]

Just want to know something ..
What dose those IC and OOC actually mean??

IC- in character??
OOC - out of character??

Am I right?

Yes.

If I speak to you IC, I speak to you as Makedonios, a Grandmaster of a Knightly Order of warrior-monks in 11th century Byzantium.

If I speak to you OOC, it is as Kevin, the friendly lovable huggable member of the throneroom.



The mixing of IC and OOC is generally frowned upon. While there are no real rules on it, and such rules would be pretty much impossible to define and uphold, there are a few general guidelines most of us follow.

1.) make clear which one your speaking in. Stuff in here is OOC unless said otherwise. Stuff in the game threads tend to be assumed to be IC unless said otherwise.

2.) make clear that conflict is only IC. If you scream your lungs out at another character IC, it is nice to send them a friendly OOC PM and let them know it's nothing personal.

3.) do not use information IC that you learned OOC. If you read a story in the story thread about a conversation between Makedonios and Anna, there is probably no way your character would know this. So you probably shouldn't mention it IC or let it color your IC interactions.

4.) don't take it personal. Your character will get in trouble. It's politics and politics is a rough and tumble world. But do remember that people are having a problem with your character, not you as a person.

*edit*

5.) Andres reminded me of this one. Be sure to use the clown smiley in all OOC posts. This lets us know your kidding and in a good mood. If you don't use this smiley, people will think your cranky like Andres.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

You are right

Btw... let me tell you something that clown smiley is not at all necessary, you know. I have it on good sources that those who do not use it, will get more provinces IC then others. But Let's keep that our little secret. Don't tell it to PK and EF

If so then from this moment til the end of the game I will not use it ..
I think

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[Ferret]

Ibn-Khaldun is a true master of life. He has shunned the ways of the dark and evil camel lord Andres and embraced the path of clownish enlightenment.

I salute you

[Privateerkev]

I can already tell he will fit in well around here.

We will have to shorten the name though. It's tradition. Plus I'm lazy and don't feel like typing the whole thing out.

He is hereafter known as IK.

[Privateerkev]

Alright, I downloaded avast and ran it.

SS now works fine.

I'll let you guys know if that changes.

[phonicsmonkey]

Alright, I downloaded avast and ran it.

SS now works fine.

yay! I saved LotR!

[Privateerkev]

yay! I saved LotR!

No you saved me.

But I'm touched that you think I am the whole game.

[Ignoramus]

I find it funny that PK has the trait "Unleashed Ambition", when Makedonius is trying desperately hard to make out that the Order is not ambitious.

[Askthepizzaguy]

If I speak to you OOC, it is as Kevin, the friendly lovable huggable member of the throneroom.

I can speak from personal experience, he is both friendly and huggable. But love... alas, poor Monomachos has his heart set on one special girl.

You know, that certain special someone who has thusfar interacted with everyone in the bleedin' Roman empire except Efstratios. I understand there was even some nudity and unadulterated violence involved. Some Senators get all the fun.

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And where oh, where has my little Tarasios gone? I was so looking forward to showing him everything I know about romance...

With a woman, of course.

Meanwhile I'm engaged in the ruthlessly diabolical connundrum as to what particular kind of wood to use when constructing a wooden palisade around the pile of dirt and twigs known as Durazzo. I was actually thinking about getting some of my fellow senators together, some ale, and some fine women, all getting drunk, and beginning our very own settlement here. It seems a rather nice place for a town. It just needs some additions like, I don't know...

people... huts... roads... mercantile enterprises... and of course, a few brothels for my fellow Senators to enjoy, and a pleasure palace for myself. If anyone sees me going into the pleasure palace with an entourage of slave girls and foreign fruitcakes, think nothing of it. I've been recently elected to the position of Grande Inspector of thy noble Houses of Ill-Repute and Chairman of the Board of Directors for the Mercantile Purveyors of Filth Regulation Committee. I've been charged with the most sacred and solemn duty, which is to personally ensure that all of the tight and revealing outfits worn by our ravishing ladies (and ladies* with an asterisk) are worn skin-tight or not at all.

It is with great honour and humility that I begrudgingly accept this heavy burden and responsibility. This personal sacrifice for the good of the empire must never be forgotten.

*I must say, that is one tempting asterisk, but somebody has to do it.

[Privateerkev]

I find it funny that PK has the trait "Unleashed Ambition", when Makedonius is trying desperately hard to make out that the Order is not ambitious.

It is only a coincidence that I have not asked TC to delete that trait. Only a coincidence. You got that? Just a coincidence. Do not read too much into that. At all. There is nothing that can be gained by looking at that trait.

And Makedonios still maintains that the Order is not ambitious. If you wish to dispute that, your more than welcome to send him yet another IC PM telling him what he can and can not do.

I can speak from personal experience, he is both friendly and huggable. But love... alas, poor Monomachos has his heart set on one special girl.

If you speak from personal experience, it is news to me.

You know, that certain special someone who has thusfar interacted with everyone in the bleedin' Roman empire except Efstratios. I understand there was even some nudity and unadulterated violence involved. Some Senators get all the fun.

I'm happy her and Mak finally had skin contact...

Took years to take it even that far...

[flyd]

The Lemongate is looking to make things real interesting at Belgrade with his absence during this 24 hour period...

[Privateerkev]

The Lemongate is looking to make things real interesting at Belgrade with his absence during this 24 hour period...

You could give him more time if your worried about the avatar's survival.

[TinCow]

Yep, duration of the turn is entirely up to the Megas. End it or extend it as you see fit.