OOC Thread and Chatroom

[woad&fangs]

Why would you want to disband your own army?

I believe it said in the event rules that an army of 6 or fewer units will get a +1 to movement.

As an example lets say that me and KoP allied and I had 3 units and he had 4. We could disband a low quality unit and try to reach Cairo faster than the others. Sacrificing power for speed.

[Dafuge]

TC has now stopped disbanding.

[TinCow]

As an example lets say that me and KoP allied and I had 3 units and he had 4. We could disband a low quality unit and try to reach Cairo faster than the others. Sacrificing power for speed.

The entire reason for the movement bonuses and penalties was to give a bonus for going alone or with non-powerful allies and give a penalty for making a massive army. You'll notice that the movement bonus is guaranteed to anyone who is solo, since no one will have a personal army larger than 6. It is also impossible for there to be a movement penalty for 2 people, since they cannot have an army larger than 12. This is all intentional and designed to work in a certain fashion. If you want to move fast, you might have to go alone or ally with someone else who is weak. If you want a strong army, you will be moving slower.

The 10 units of garrison in Alexandria and Cairo were also specifically chosen with this balance in mind. People who are able to get the movement bonus will have a tough time taking the cities. People who have an easy time taking the cities will not get there as quickly. You need to determine what the best strategy is and pursue it as you see fit.

[woad&fangs]

No Crusaders left behind. Understood, TC.

on another note, does anyone know how far the "scarred" line of traits goes in SS? Solomon already has "marks of war".

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Also.. if I do not join the crusade but want to fight the Egyptians then can I start the war before the Crusaders or can only the Crusaders do that??

And.. As I understand then Crusaders can take only Alexandria and Cairo.
But what if others want to go against Egypt as well is it allowed them to conquer other cities??
There is an Edict in the Magnaura that declares war on Egypt.. So others could take Acre and Jerusalem and so on??

[Privateerkev]

There is an Edict in the Magnaura that declares war on Egypt.. So others could take Acre and Jerusalem and so on??

[TinCow]

The Event does not alter any possible war with Egypt. If a proper declaration of war is started by the Basileus or an Edict, it can be started whenever you want. The Event only allows that no declaration of war is required if the war is started by one of the Crusaders themselves. It's a way of bypassing the Edict requirement in the event that one is not enacted.

The Event does not alter what any non-Crusader does. They can attack anything they want, as long as the rules are obeyed. The Event also does not stop the Crusaders from attacking other Egyptian cities once the Crusade is over. Once Cairo is captured, you can do whatever you like, but you have to use the normal system to do so.

[Dafuge]

Will the Generals have to stay in Egypt after the Crusade or will they be warped back, and what happens to the units?

[Ibn-Khaldun]

This was not meant for your eyes!

So let's just pretend that you know nothing about that!

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Will the Generals have to stay in Egypt after the Crusade or will they be warped back, and what happens to the units?

You can keep the troops.

You will not be warped to anywhere.

You will stay in Egypt and have to find your own way back.

[TinCow]

Bingo. Getting home from the real Crusades wasn't a picnic either.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Bingo. Getting home from the real Crusades wasn't a picnic either.

It wasn't?? Really??

I do remember seeing pictures where Crusaders had a nice time around a small campfire ..

Or was it a burning town .. oh well.. it's almost the same thing

[AussieGiant]

Bingo. Getting home from the real Crusades wasn't a picnic either.

Now you just spoiled all my fun TC.

[Zim]

Maybe it's just a distorted view from playing a hotseat with battles allowed with some freakishly good players, but it seems to me 10 unit garrisons might be a little small. I learned after a bit of help of a particularly good player that it's not all that difficult to defeat a garrison larger than your army, without using your general's bodyguard heavily, even for someone who's mediocre at the game like me. Maybe 13 or so units would make it harder?

Of course, if the crusader armies contain a fair amount of rabble and the garrisons don't I might be fretting for nothing.

The 10 units of garrison in Alexandria and Cairo were also specifically chosen with this balance in mind. People who are able to get the movement bonus will have a tough time taking the cities. People who have an easy time taking the cities will not get there as quickly. You need to determine what the best strategy is and pursue it as you see fit.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

I just hope that TC wouldn't spawn gold chevroned elite troops to protect the towns!!!

[TinCow]

The garrions are not meant to be too difficult, they are simply meant to be a deterent to the weakest of the armies. I want the challenge to be beating the other Crusaders to the destination, not taking the cities themselves.

I have done my best to update the feudal structure in the Library. Please check the Political Alliances and Houses table and your own personal biography to make sure I have all the ranks, province ownerships, and oaths right. I have not done the following things yet, so please don't point them out:

Current Influence
Wives
Children
1110 AD mugshots

Also note that for my own convenience, I have added in Knights_of_Palma as a member of the Order. However, he has sworn during a Senate Session and as such his oath does not technically take effect until after the session is over. Since he is just a Strator, though, this doesn't change anything and it's easier for me to just do it now while I'm at it. Just remember that technically his oath will not take effect until Tuesday.

[Privateerkev]

Please check the Political Alliances and Houses table and your own personal biography to make sure I have all the ranks, province ownerships, and oaths right.

Here is what I found so far:

Activity: Byblos is listed as 0 activity even though he voted in the 1st session. Kag is listed as 1 activity when he voted in both the 1st and 2nd sessions. (Kag voted "abstain on all" in the legislation poll.)

Time served: EF and FD have it listed when they got their current rank since it requires a certain amount of time served before moving on. This helps me out a lot since I've been trying to keep track of this. Kalameteros on the other hand does not have it listed as to when he reached his current rank even though his rank is also requires a certain amount of time served to move on.

[TinCow]

Hmmm... I could have sworn that Kag missed the second vote. It's possible he voted after the time limit expired. I will give both him and Byblos the benefit of the doubt and bump their activity count up by 1 each. However from now on I will be locking all polls after their time limit expires.

[Privateerkev]

Hmmm... I could have sworn that Kag missed the second vote. It's possible he voted after the time limit expired. I will give both him and Byblos the benefit of the doubt and bump their activity count up by 1 each. However from now on I will be locking all polls after their time limit expires.

I guess I assumed that the polls locked at a certain time so I didn't think about the fact that they could have voted late.

[Ferret]

Why is everyone leaving on my brithday, first deguerra, now TinCow!

And about the crusade, is it possible for two people to sail to Egypt seperately and join up when they have both landed? Thus risking having to wait if one gets caught in a storm or something but hopefully increasing their chances of going faster.

[deguerra]

TC, I believe Ioannis has 2 influence, now that he is married to Anna, correct?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Just want everyone to know, I am still in the game, but will likely be rp'ing only. I doubt I will end up moving my aging avatar unless he's needed in battle.

Also... for the story for my character, the events may not match up precisely with in-game events. There will be flashbacks and stuff... so please bear with me.

[woad&fangs]

He's only 40 It's not like he's going to roll over and croak any time soon.

[Privateerkev]

Yeah but he has 0 loyalty. He might rebel upon setting foot upon the ground.

[Privateerkev]

I just want to say I loved your rant ATPG!

Things have been quiet with you gone.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Thank you.

Umm... for those interested, my actions won't be interfering with the game itself or anyone's fun.

However, Efstratios' character has turned due to a traumatic event which I will explain in flashbacks later. (Damn the speed of this game... damn my hectic schedule)


Efstratios will be quite outspoken against the Patriarch from now on, unless he calls off the crusade. You may react to this however you like. I hope you all won't universally condemn me, but I feel it won't be too far away from that anyway.

[GeneralHankerchief]

I'd oblige and we could get into a nice little flamewar, if it weren't for the slight problem that the Rep isn't allowed in the Magnaura.

[Askthepizzaguy]

GH,

I'd very much like to argue in the form of IC letters between us.

Would you allow me to post such letters in your Patriarch thread, or would you prefer another thread?

The Senate would be interested in such arguments, so perhaps letters could be read in the Senate itself, but hidden in spoilers so as not to distract from the overall thing.

[Privateerkev]

You guys could argue in the Hippodrome.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I can't do that. Efstratios is in self-imposed exile right now.