Quote Originally Posted by LittleGrizzly
Communism has never been achieved i suppose it could be blamed for causing the revolution which allowed stalin to take power.
What has been done in the name of communism, or what is commonly understood to be communism, is the heart of the argument.


If your talking stalinism which i strongly suspect you are
I'm talking communism et al, which includes Stalinism as well as Juche, Marxism, Leninism, and Maoism.

You are also talking Hitler when you say fascism, even though National Socialism and fascism are different - nonetheless, Stalinism is a brand of communism, as National Socialism is a brand of fascism.

im willing to argue pure numbers would show facism to be a far deadlier ideaology, you have to take into account length of rule[/QUOTE]

That means averages, not pure numbers. Doesn't work. Even presuming WWII was completely the fault of Hitler, the Soviet Union alone still killed more - and most of these during the reign of Stalin, a similar time period to the rule of Hitler.

and population available to kill, of course this isn't even taking into account all the lives lost because of world war 2.
Presuming you can blame WWII entirely on Hitler, which I do not believe you can. Even then, we can take into account nice regimes like North Korea, China, Vietnam, Khmer Rouge...