What should I do with Asia Minor?

[QuintusSertorius]

In my historical game, it's 192BC and I'm fighting the Seleukids in Anatolia. With the eventual aim of driving them out of the region.

However, I have a problem. While I'm fine making Pergamon a client province, I don't want to conquer their historical extent because that seems a bit much. I want to give it to another faction to hold for me until I hit 133BC.

It has to be a Hellenic (not Hellenistic) faction, but I've got a nice stalemate between Koinon Hellenon and Makedonia in Greece itself. If I give them to KH, they'll wipe out Makedonia in it's homeland. If I give them to Makedonia, they'll wipe out KH in Greece.

I don't want to give stuff to Epeiros, since I'm destroying them in 25 years. Which gives me a though - maybe I should wipe out Epeiros, give their territory to Makedonia, then give the offending new provinces to KH?

Would it be worth giving Hallikarnassos and Side back to the Ptolemies to keep things messy there? Northernmost provinces will go to Pontos and Hayasdan, I think.

Ideas?

[konny]

Would it be worth giving Hallikarnassos and Side back to the Ptolemies to keep things messy there? Northernmost provinces will go to Pontos and Hayasdan, I think.

Yes, that's what I would do: give these lands to AS enemies in return for a treaty of alliance. That way I once secured my Northern border against my Aedui and Sweboz enemies: gave provinces like Aventicos to the Arverni in return for an alliance. That held for many decades, prevented Arverni from destruction and pushed back the brown flood.

[QuintusSertorius]

I've just given Sardis to KH, I think I'll do the same with Ipsos. Hallikarnassos, Side and Tarsos to the Ptolemies. That might finally get them to agree to an alliance. Mazaka to Pontos.

[QuintusSertorius]

It now looks thus:



Lovely mixed-up bands of no one really having a lot of control. I wonder what the possibility is of making it all go rebel? Or perhaps I should wait until I've destroyed Makedonia and Koinon Hellenon for that? That's not for a while, though.

[QuintusSertorius]

Here's another thought, what if I were to migrate Epeiros to Asia Minor when I destroy them? Turn them into one of the smaller Hellenic kingdoms? Could I use them as Bithynia?

I'm already thinking I might preserve Koinon Hellenon as Rhodes. Or perhaps I should move someone to Cyrenaica?

I can think of at least four regions I might preserve as a single-province faction: Crete, Rhodes, Bithynia and Kyrene (or maybe five with the Bopshoran Kingdom). Who would be the best fit for each of them?

Would I be crazy to put Qarthadast, once destroyed in Sidon?

[Hax]

Could I use them as Bithynia?

I believe Bithynia was Eastern. You could of course use Pontos for that.