How do I nerf the Ptolemies - without conquering them?

**delra** · 05-29-2008, 22:14

Give southern Egypt to Saba and Cyrene to Carthage so they start fighting at three directions instead of one.

**Banzai!** · 05-29-2008, 23:12

add_money -40000, numidia

and repeat.

**overweightninja** · 05-29-2008, 23:30

In regards to giving southern Egpypt to the Saba, be careful. I did the same thing in a Kart-Hadast campaign a little while ago and the Saba were unable to keep order and hold anything north of Meroe, the troops spawned from the rebelling cities actually ended making the Ptollies more powerful than when I started :(
Syria is a good place to start stealing settlements...
Cheers

**QuintusSertorius** · 05-30-2008, 00:41

Originally Posted by overweightninja

In regards to giving southern Egpypt to the Saba, be careful. I did the same thing in a Kart-Hadast campaign a little while ago and the Saba were unable to keep order and hold anything north of Meroe, the troops spawned from the rebelling cities actually ended making the Ptollies more powerful than when I started :(
Syria is a good place to start stealing settlements...
Cheers

I noticed this the turn after I'd given them away; I added some Hellenic Native Spearmen and once they'd stopped depleting the garrisons it stuck. Long as they hold the deep desert, I think that's enough. Especially since the Ptolemies also lost much of Syria too. And Cyprus.

Here's what I did to them:

I've also been moving their armies away from anything dangerous, like conquering Seleukid Syria or regaining the desert provinces.

**Sygrod** · 05-31-2008, 00:08

Since you are moving their armies: Move some to deserted islands. You can even send some to Finland or Ireland. I am sure they would enjoy the vacation.

**QuintusSertorius** · 05-31-2008, 00:12

Originally Posted by Sygrod

Since you are moving their armies: Move some to deserted islands. You can even send some to Finland or Ireland. I am sure they would enjoy the vacation.

Isn't Finland connected by land bridge to Denmark? I recently put the Lusotanii in southern Ireland, so I'd be worried about what a Ptolemaic army there might do.

**General Appo** · 05-31-2008, 07:55

Originally Posted by QuintusSertorius

Isn't Finland connected by land bridge to Denmark?

Don´t think so, but I believe they will still be able to walk into the lands of the Balts, though they´ll probably just begin the long journey home. Just put them in Terhazza or on the Horn of Africa (just south of Sab´yn).

**pantsukki** · 05-31-2008, 12:00

Originally Posted by QuintusSertorius

Isn't Finland connected by land bridge to Denmark? I recently put the Lusotanii in southern Ireland, so I'd be worried about what a Ptolemaic army there might do.

I believe that the connected country is Sweden. Finland lies east of Sweden, not Denmark. See for example this map: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Scandinavia.jpg

We're anything but Swedes!