anyone know Akkadian?

**Ibrahim** · 06-02-2008, 07:51

new or standard babylonian dialect, rather than Assyrian to be exact-not that it matters, seeing that both dialects were intelligible to each other...

I need to have a few guidelines on telling which verbs are a/a, a/u, a/i, e/e, i/i type, and so on...or a rule of thumb. I have some words that I suspect are of teach particular type, but if anyone can correct, be my guest. I need to know how to tell so i can parse them later:

esheeru: to ready (e/e?)
neru (there is a circumflex on the e, so no its not 600): to kill (e/e?)
shalaa'u: to throw, fling, shoot (i/i?)
abaatu: to flee (confirmed a/u)
here is the source:
http://www.premiumwanadoo.com/cuneif...es/dictionary/
is it good? (still under construction though)

**Lysandros** · 06-02-2008, 08:24

I learnt a bit Akkadian, but I'm sorry I cannot answer your question. Anyway, I thought the infinitive ending in Akkadian is -um, not -u?
Edit: I just saw you wrote New Babylonian dialect, so that might be the answer? As far as I remember I learnt Old Akkadian.

**Ibrahim** · 06-02-2008, 17:28

Originally Posted by Lysandros

I learnt a bit Akkadian, but I'm sorry I cannot answer your question. Anyway, I thought the infinitive ending in Akkadian is -um, not -u?
Edit: I just saw you wrote New Babylonian dialect, so that might be the answer? As far as I remember I learnt Old Akkadian.

yeah this is new Babylonian. the m was dropped from late old Akkadin (both major dialects) onwards. if I recall, most courses teach in the old Akkadian first, then push you into the dialectual issues (like assyrian and Babylonian treatment of the weak consonenets.

but thing is, I don't know if these given types of verbs are the correct ones for sure. anyone in the EB team? *wishes for someone w/Akkadian major*

**machinor** · 06-03-2008, 12:16

Unfortunatly not.

I'm planning on making courses in an ancient oriental language for some time now, though. I still have to decide which one... Akkadian or Assyrian kind of seem tempting...

**Ibrahim** · 06-03-2008, 19:05

Originally Posted by machinor

Unfortunatly not.

I'm planning on making courses in an ancient oriental language for some time now, though. I still have to decide which one... Akkadian or Assyrian kind of seem tempting...

Assyrian is a dialect of Akkadian...

**Sarcasm** · 06-03-2008, 22:09

anyone know Akkadian?

Where else can you actually start a thread with this title?

**The Persian Cataphract** · 06-03-2008, 22:18

I've only got basic skills in Middle Aramaïc (Of Eastern type; It differs a bit from the Middle Syriac) and Mandaïc so, no I can't really be of help here, unfortunately.

What was interesting with the site though:

It must be a conspiracy theory

It looks so much alike the Derafsh-î Kâviyânîg:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

**Ibrahim** · 06-04-2008, 01:15

I saw that. remind me of an apocriphal arab story about that flag. I'll translate:

" the persian shahenshah brought with him his best men, and also his famed banner, the drafshi kavian (that was the transliteration). It is said that the flag appeared when a ruler was repressing his poeple, and a humble blacksmith named ardashir led a revolt against him, in which he took his blacksmith's Apron, and tied it to a staff. he eventually triumphed and was made king, at which the flag was adopted as the royal standard. over time, the flag was replaced by a tiger skin, decked in jewels and gold, and was carried by the finest of the kings men..."
I know its wrong, but kind of idealistic..so I figured I'd share it with you all.

I wonder if the persians wrote a poem or story like that, then the arabs bleieved it...

**cmacq** · 06-04-2008, 03:04

Do you use Akkadian to mean the language proper, or the East Semitic language group?

**Ibrahim** · 06-04-2008, 03:57

Originally Posted by cmacq

Do you use Akkadian to mean the language proper, or the East Semitic language group?

the language proper (bear in mind that there were several dialects-all mutually intelligeble. in this case I need new babylonian)

**cmacq** · 06-04-2008, 04:38

Strange, I thought Neo-Babylonian was a separate late East Semitic language as opposed to Old-Babylonian; an Eblaitic-Amoritic or West Semitic language?

**Ibrahim** · 06-04-2008, 04:53

I know, I understand the confusion. here is how it works:

Akkadian starts out as old akkadian (c.3000-2000BC). it branches off into 2 main lines: old Assyrian, and old babylonian. the former is the more conservative of the 2. in any case both transition to middle assyrian & babylonian, then finally neo Assyrian and babylonian. then there is standard babylonian, which is a lot like middle Assyrian or babylonian, then mari, nuzi, and Boghaskoy dialect (latter was a trade language used by hittites). lets not forget Al-amarna too. all through that time, to my understanding, both maor dialects remained intelligeble throughout the 2 millenia they were poken (last record is around the time of christ-not sure).

anyways, as I said, I need someone who is more experienced with Akkadian than myself, in order to parse several verbs, whom the dictionary neglected to mention the class of.

otherwise, I'm cool with the lishanu akkaditu..