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    Default Re: Any tips for Roman campaign?

    Quote Originally Posted by QuintusSertorius
    I don't retrain, ever. Unless you're using alex.exe the AI doesn't, so that's effectively an exploit in favour of the human player.
    You are wrong Sertorius, the AI with Rome.exe. do retrain his troops. As I am about to get out of mainland Italy, had have spies every where, I already noticed troops with silver and even gold chevrons at full strenght. The Hellenes, the Macedonians and the Gauls are retraining them. And I dont use Alex.

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    That must not be the result of retraining but can be done by merging experinced troops (don't forgett that the AI gets a lot of chevrons from autocalc). In this case there should be a couple of units from the same class understrength.

    The only evidences I could find for retraining was with the ALX.exe. That were depleted forces in isolated towns that became full strength within one turn without creating understrength units of the same class. It might be that the retraining function was deliberatly left out for the AI in the other games because it might (and does with the ALX.exe) lead to the situation in which AI towns become unconquerable for other AI forces.

    The gameplay in RTW:Alexander is much different (human vs. all AI factions).

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    Default Re: Any tips for Roman campaign?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reno Melitensis
    You are wrong Sertorius, the AI with Rome.exe. do retrain his troops. As I am about to get out of mainland Italy, had have spies every where, I already noticed troops with silver and even gold chevrons at full strenght. The Hellenes, the Macedonians and the Gauls are retraining them. And I dont use Alex.

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    They're more likely merging of survivors of battles, or equally likely created by revolts. The AI doesn't retrain outside of alex.exe.
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    This idea that the RTW AI does not retrain is a popular myth, but it is indeed false. Play around with a plague city or a rioting city and pay attention - once the disease/disorder ends the garrison will be back at full strength, with all unit cards fully accounted for.

    Now, it is true that the RTW AI doesn't retrain often or very effectively... But there are an awful lot of things the AI doesn't do effectively.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhhowell View Post
    This idea that the RTW AI does not retrain is a popular myth, but it is indeed false. Play around with a plague city or a rioting city and pay attention - once the disease/disorder ends the garrison will be back at full strength, with all unit cards fully accounted for.

    Now, it is true that the RTW AI doesn't retrain often or very effectively... But there are an awful lot of things the AI doesn't do effectively.
    I actually think you are correct on this one. I believe I have noticed this in the past myself.

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    I noticed that even some Eleutheroi city from time to time retrain their units. I agree with jhhowell, it is impossible that the Macedonians and the Hellenes merged all those troops to create a full trained army with so many chevrons. Macedon owns Mithilene, and the army there faught against the Pontic kingdom and against Halikarnasus, which rebeled to the Hellenes. Now as the struggle on mainland Greece is ongoing, I noticed that the AI got this army on ships. It included levy Phalangites, some with three bronze chevrons, toxotai, hippies, and a mixture of light troops. After some turns this army was shipped to Greece, unfortunately it was almost destroyed by the Hellenic army, but its intervention saved Chalkis.



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    Default Re: Any tips for Roman campaign?

    I'm quite certain that the AI does retrain, although it's very unclear what the requirements for it to do are. It's certainly not to do with money or population.

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