The Magnaura

**Warmaster Horus** · 09-02-2008, 21:41

Senators,
I will give Scopia back to Comes Tagaris.
I must say that I am disgusted at the attitude of the majority of you. Tagaris broke the law, and now is not punished anymore. His House is his, if he wishes it. His lands are his, as I have been forced to give one province back. His "honour" is his because he serves the Empire, trying to keep the peace in Cairo.
If this is the way lawbreakers and punishers are treated here, then I pity the future of the Empire.
Tagaris, I expect you to release me from your service the second you learn of this.

**deguerra** · 09-02-2008, 22:24

Dammit Nikophoros!

What kind of a man are you to feel bound by the opinion of a few gutless children? I adore what you did. You saw a problem and fixed it. Tagaris loses nothing with Scopia. It is nothing but a mere symbolic act to punish those who do not uphold the law.

You are a good man Nikophoros and you did the right thing. And I challenge anyone to say otherwise.

**Cecil XIX** · 09-02-2008, 23:33

Personally, I agree with Senator Kalametros. Nikiphoros, you have made Senator Tagaris pay a real price for his dishonor. And you did it not by force, but by using Methodios's own laws. Methodios has no one to blame but himself that you have brought him to task. I agree that you should keep Sofia.

**rossahh** · 09-03-2008, 07:18

You might as well be clear, Senator. You will or have given Scopia to Methodios? If you have done neither than I suggest you keep it that way. It seems that you are the only one who can punish Meothodios at this time, and so if you think Methodios deserves to be punished, why not do it?

**_Tristan_** · 09-03-2008, 08:04

Originally Posted by Warmaster Horus

Senators,
I will give Scopia back to Comes Tagaris.
Tagaris, I expect you to release me from your service the second you learn of this.

These are the terms I gave you, Manouelitis.

The minute Scopia is mine again, I'll release you from your oath.

(OOC : Perhaps by removing it from your SoT ? )

**rossahh** · 09-03-2008, 08:07

Or he could just wait a few paltry years instead.

**ULC** · 09-03-2008, 08:20

Nikolaos looks up from his paperwork, with a slightly weary yet humored look. "Are you going to talk about nothing but whether or not a certain piece of land should go were? If so, at least take it objectively. First, Methodios gave it in good faith, which has shown to be misplaced severely, by a man with conduct unbecoming of him. Second, If you wish to bring up what is just, remember that Methodios is risking his life now in Alexandria, it behooves us to know that and consider it."

**Warmaster Horus** · 09-03-2008, 14:56

I will not give Scopia back. The support I now see, as well as the thinking I have done made me change my mind. Mostly, it's the fact that you have been punished Tagaris. If I were to give you your land back, then that punishment will have been nothing.
You have kept Alexandria. You can have your House back. Add Scopia to that, and you're basically going free. I cannot accept that.
You have been expulsed of House Korakas. You have agreed to that expulsion. Expulsion includes your vassals and your lord breaking the oaths of fealty related to you. This is what I am doing.
You don't have a choice. You will be a law-breaker to the laws you made yourself, If you refuse this. Then I will hunt you down. I will not do that now, while the Empire is still troubled. But our paths will cross one day. And then...

Nikolaos, I hope all of us here would do the same. Tagaris is bound to serve the Empire, and that service includes protecting its cities and citizens. That argument is out.

**_Tristan_** · 09-03-2008, 15:22

And would you tell me, Manouelitis, who gave you the right to be the judge of my actions ? Whose sanction do you have to do it ?

What have you done in service of House Ilios Korakas that should give you the right to pass judgment on its members ?

I'll tell you : all you did was betray the trust the House put in you... You got kicked out and came groveling back in, pleading for being let in once again.

I do not recognize the judgment you passed on me by the simple fact that you treacherously gained my confidence for your own convenience, which was prying Scopia from my hands (and Alexandria if you had been able to do it).

I do not recognize your authority in this matter and therefore you remain bound by your oath. I see you're still intent on breaking it. So be it... But you will not be able to reswear in the years to come.

You say your acts are a fitting punishment for what I did in Alexandria but your own actions are those of a thief, sneaky and underhanded...

As for meeting on a battlefield, I'm your man whenever you want... I never backed down from any challenge and I'll not back down from yours.

I feel sorry for the House who will dare give shelter to such a man... Its name will forever bear the mark of treason.

**Warmaster Horus** · 09-03-2008, 15:29

Very well. I hereby break my oath to Tagaris.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

As for the rest of what you said, I'll just sum it up: I'm a no-good cheat, because I didn't hesitate to act like one of the dregs of society to accomplish what I had to do.
Tagaris, I'm just learning how to be a politician. You pre-emptively tried to avoid punishment. No one else would do it, so I had to get back in. Somehow.
If there's one lesson learned here, I think it's "the end justify the means".