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    Quote Originally Posted by Monomachios
    Since your own allegiances don't enter into the discussion, why do mine?

    Stop changing the subject and address my point. You seek to deny my house and my right to claim lands for the empire and for my house. Plain and simple. Don't dare weasel out of it.
    You were first to question my allegiances... Reason enough for me to question yours... As for my own allegiances, I have answered and will maintain that I have one at this point and do not envision to have some anytime soon.

    I will say it once and for all my plan is not intended to deny your House of any land, though I can see that can be the unfortunate result of my Edict.

    Lastly, let me say that the Head of your House was informed of the proposed Edict long before it was formulated before this House but has not seen fit to come forward with any observation concerning it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kagemusha
    Efstratios Monomachos.All i have said has been my personal opinion. As far as i am concerned i can give out my opinions as senator of this Senate. If you dont trust the Basileos to be fair in his rule, that is your opinion and you are entitled to it.
    You can give out your opinions but dont attempt to silence mine. And why does your political faction insist on speaking as if they were the Basileos? Until he declares that you have the right to speak in his name I will continue to ignore your claims that this is his will, and any attempt by you or your allies to speak for him.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tristan de Castelreng
    You were first to question my allegiances... Reason enough for me to question yours... As for my own allegiances, I have answered and will maintain that I have one at this point and do not envision to have some anytime soon.
    I will state again: I don't care what your allegiances are. They don't enter into this discussion in my mind. If I was originally mistaken as to which house you belonged to, that point is long past us, and it makes no difference to me.

    I will say it once and for all my plan is not intended to deny your House of any land, though I can see that that be the unfortunate result of my Edict.
    Such honourable intentions... why would I object to denying my house land, with such good intentions.

    The road to hell is paved with them.

    Lastly, let me say that the Head of your House was informed of the proposed Edict long before it was formulated before this House but has not seen fit to come forward with any observation concerning it...
    It doesn't matter to me whom you spoke to. The head of the House of the Asteri has already granted me my leave and that house does not speak for me.

    My point remains unanswered. WHY IS THIS EDICT NECESSARY?

    Why can we not simply claim rebel provinces for the empire? What business of yours is it which ones I take, especially if you don't seek them yourself?
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    Anastasios is clearly losing his temper. His voice grows louder and his hands wave about to punctuate his speech.

    This is a floor of debate. If there is no point in arguing, why should we even be here in the first place!

    Senators, I am tired of this rhetoric. You are either blinding yourselves willingly to this man’s dishonesty – and do not make me get the charters of our House to prove it, or some of you actually have unmentionned accords with this man, which you should think about twice, seeing as he has already crossed a fine line between a simple change of heart and an odious betrayal!

    Secondly, the willingness to gift land to the Emperor is commendable, but the Emperor has his own lands and his own armies. I would never act against him or deny him in any way as he is my Lord before God, but he has no need for the handful of pitiful mud houses that make up Durazzo! Some bright, up and coming Senators, on the other hand, who are not busied with the ruling of the greatest Empire our world has known, can devote all their time and attention to develop Epirus and gain position and status to enable them to lead imperial forces for the greater glory of the Empire and it’s Basileos!

    Vindictive diplomacy is the action of cowards!

    I would have Tagaris speak with me or Monomachos privately about this affaire, and we could all… answer for our actions and ambitions.

    Surely Senators, you can see the validity of discussion this point between men, rather then rashly throwing about legislation!
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