U.S. Elections 2008: General Elections -- Analysis and Commentary

[Hooahguy]

How is Palin "more in touch"?

she is more middle class than obama, ie she knows more of what the middle class goes through.
IMO.

i´m sorry...but I have a hard time reconciling this...

after what the US government has just done to the financial system you think Obama is the socialist?

your government just socialized the financial systems debt how does it feel to belong to a "commy pinko socialist" nation?

as of now, its pretty socialist when it comes to the economy, but just shy of redistributing wealth (socialist), which obama says he will do.

the viewpoint i have on the government and god is the same: they arent there to wipe my behind. i need to do my own wiping.
too many americans, IMO, want the government to take care of everything, and dont realize that thats not the "american dream."

to me, the "american dream" is being able to reap the benefits of your labor.
if my dad works 3 jobs, and as a result i never really see him much just so he can pay off the bills, keep a roof over my head, pay for my education, and pay for food, he deserves every penny he makes for the sacrifices he makes for his family. i dont want to see his money going to some druggie on welfare who uses it to by drugs.
redistribution of wealth- thats not what our founding fathers had in mind.

forget "give peace a chance."
"give capitalism a chance!"

also, if i may quote someone (i forget who): "the government that governs least governs best."

[Hooahguy]

I think the democratic muggers of Pittsburgh need a reminder to stay classy...



CR

am i the only one who notices this? where i live, theres a lot of anti-mccain violence. many cars in my neighborhood which bear a mccain bumber sticker are keyed, and windows smashed.

yet i never hear any anti-obama supporter violence where i live.

[KarlXII]

am i the only one who notices this? where i live, theres a lot of anti-mccain violence. many cars in my neighborhood which bear a mccain bumber sticker are keyed, and windows smashed.

yet i never hear any anti-obama supporter violence where i live.

It would be easy to find info on anti-Obama violence. It happens where I reside, plenty of times. I've run off people vandalizing Obama signs or trying to destroy cars/property.

[m52nickerson]

Absolutely. Since her nomination, she has showed herself to be a quick learner and now is spending more time with the media than any of the other candidates.

Yes she quickly learned to repeat GOP talking points. A parrot can do that.

By the way here is a look at a Palin Presidency

[PanzerJaeger]

am i the only one who notices this? where i live, theres a lot of anti-mccain violence. many cars in my neighborhood which bear a mccain bumber sticker are keyed, and windows smashed.

yet i never hear any anti-obama supporter violence where i live.

Yep, someone stole my McCain yard sign. I went down to the local GOP headquarters and they gave me another one, and a couple more just in case.

[KarlXII]

Yep, someone stole my McCain yard sign. I went down to the local Gestapo headquarters and they gave me a gun, and a couple more just in case.

Fixed

[m52nickerson]

Yep, someone stole my McCain yard sign. I went down to the local GOP headquarters and they gave me another one, and a couple more just in case.

So they just have to give those things away.

[Crazed Rabbit]

Fixed

That's ridiculous. I'm pretty sure PJ already has guns.

CR

[Tribesman]

as of now, its pretty socialist when it comes to the economy, but just shy of redistributing wealth (socialist), which obama says he will do.

All taxation redistributes wealth .
McCain is gonna tax ya , Obama is gonna tax ya , even Ron Paul is gonna tax ya .

my dad works 3 jobs and were middle class.

If your dad need 3 jobs then he ain't middle class , he is just trying very hard to pretend he is .

[PanzerJaeger]

Fixed

Very funny.

Actually I just picked up a Gestapo P38 a few months ago. Now all I need is to get my hands on a Luftwaffe variant, and my P38 collection will be complete. So there.

[KarlXII]

Very funny.

Actually I just picked up a Gestapo P38 a few months ago. Now all I need is to get my hands on a Luftwaffe variant, and my P38 collection will be complete. So there.

Head on over to McWaffe HQ!

[Sasaki Kojiro]

no offense Makanyane, but i think you just dont make much sense in what you said.
i see no problem in voting for palin. she is a lot more in touch with average americans than obama will ever hope to be. the fact that obama wants to take away our hard earned money and give it to those who havent worked so hard for it makes me want to retch. i worked incredibly hard for my money, searching for jobs and working full time during the summer.
my dad works 3 jobs and were middle class. we're not rich. as the 2nd of 5 kids, i dont want to see my fathers incredibly hard earned money taken away to benefit some crackhead.
socialism or capitalism? obama is for the former, palin for the latter. the choice is clear.

Could you give me your estimate of McCain's income tax cut for a family making between 20,000 and 35,000 dollars compared to Obama's? Also 38-65,000 while you're at it. Without looking it up...

[Xiahou]

anyone can come of as "idealistic" in an interview...you are prepared and usually come off better than what you really are.....so the mansion belongs to the people of Alaska uh?...how about the money for those travel expenses of hers?...does it belong to the people as well?....she sure was using it as she saw fit.

She's spent about 1/5 of what the previous governor did on travel expenses, sold the state's private jet and flies coach wherever she goes. That's the thing with the media hit pieces they write- they conveniently leave out all context.

Could you give me your estimate of McCain's income tax cut for a family making between 20,000 and 35,000 dollars compared to Obama's?

Probably none, since they don't pay any income taxes to begin with(about 40% of us don't). Obama isn't giving any income tax cuts either- he's wants to give payroll tax credits, ie: handouts. It's stealing from the rich to give to the poor- Robin Hood would be proud....
Barney Frank outlines what we can expect under the Democrat Congress/presidency.

[Lemur]

I think the democratic muggers of Pittsburgh need a reminder to stay classy...

I'm sorry to say that this one looks very suspicious. From the account I read, she just happened to be mugged where the ATM's camera couldn't see, and the attacker just happened to carve the letter "B" (why not "O"?) on her cheek backward ... the exact way you would if you were doing it in a mirror. And while being assaulted by a huge black man who was carving up her flesh, she held still well enough for the letter to come out quite nicely.

I think this is one of those stories Matt Drudge is going to regret breaking out the red font for. Does the name Tawana Bradley ring a bell?

P.S.: Apparently this young lady was on Twitter the entire day, and Smoking Gun captured her feed before she yanked it.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Please excuse me butting in on the end of a long thread, but I cannot see any possible reason why anyone remotely sane could possibly vote for any outcome that could in any remote eventuality result in the Palin woman being left in charge of a large city let alone half a continent... Please, please bear that horrible prospect in mind before anyone is tempted to vote for the party supporting her as 'vice' anything.

This is EXACTLY the sentiment my wife holds -- and she's about 80% certain to vote for Obama at present. Since her mom is 104% likely to vote for Obama, it means we're 2-1 in his camp as a family.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

She's spent about 1/5 of what the previous governor did on travel expenses, sold the state's private jet and flies coach wherever she goes. That's the thing with the media hit pieces they write- they conveniently leave out all context.



Probably none, since they don't pay any income taxes to begin with(about 40% of us don't). Obama isn't giving any income tax cuts either- he's wants to give payroll tax credits, ie: handouts. It's stealing from the rich to give to the poor- Robin Hood would be proud....
Barney Frank outlines what we can expect under the Democrat Congress/presidency.

This always confuses me. Robin Hood is the good guy

[woad&fangs]

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=89168

lulz

[Xiahou]

P.S.: Apparently this young lady was on Twitter the entire day, and Smoking Gun captured her feed before she yanked it.

I don't know if it's fake or not, but being on twitter doesn't mean anything. Notice the posts made via twitterberry.

[PanzerJaeger]

This always confuses me. Robin Hood is the good guy

Umm, I thought he was a terrorist... ?

[CountArach]

This always confuses me. Robin Hood is the good guy

Ahhh, touché

[LittleGrizzly]

As the story goes the sherrif on nottingham was a mean old sherrif and he raised the taxes on the poor peasents of nottingham, so robin stole from the rich and gave to the poor!

TBH if i was a conservative i would probably go for the obama as sherrif of nottingham because.... hes the bad guy in the story.... and he raises taxes... but the fact is that the sherrif increased taxes on the poor while obama's doing it to the rich.... obama is a mix of robin hood and the sherrif of nottingham!

to me, the "american dream" is being able to reap the benefits of your labor.
if my dad works 3 jobs, and as a result i never really see him much just so he can pay off the bills, keep a roof over my head, pay for my education, and pay for food, he deserves every penny he makes for the sacrifices he makes for his family. i dont want to see his money going to some druggie on welfare who uses it to by drugs.
redistribution of wealth- thats not what our founding fathers had in mind.

If your dad is working 3 jobs just to get by then you'll be excited to now that you will be unaffected by obama's tax plans!! (or your taxes won't go up) unless when you said just to pay the rent and bills that you have some pretty big bills... (250K or so....)

the republican and democrats are so far removed from what the founding fathers had in mind that i really don't understand the point in bringing it up....

[m52nickerson]

Probably none, since they don't pay any income taxes to begin with(about 40% of us don't). Obama isn't giving any income tax cuts either- he's wants to give payroll tax credits, ie: handouts. It's stealing from the rich to give to the poor- Robin Hood would be proud....
Barney Frank outlines what we can expect under the Democrat Congress/presidency.

How is a tax credit of about $1000 for olw income people a bad, but a $5000 tax credit a good thing?

[Koga No Goshi]

I'm sorry to say that this one looks very suspicious. From the account I read, she just happened to be mugged where the ATM's camera couldn't see, and the attacker just happened to carve the letter "B" (why not "O"?) on her cheek backward ... the exact way you would if you were doing it in a mirror. And while being assaulted by a huge black man who was carving up her flesh, she held still well enough for the letter to come out quite nicely.

I think this is one of those stories Matt Drudge is going to regret breaking out the red font for. Does the name Tawana Bradley ring a bell?

P.S.: Apparently this young lady was on Twitter the entire day, and Smoking Gun captured her feed before she yanked it.

It is indeed a story with some holes in it. The woman also claims she was disoriented and didn't know which direction the man ran in.

This was a robbery. I am not sure that the story would have been much different if it had been an Obama supporter at the ATM machine. Even according to the victim's story the man didn't notice her McCain sticker till after he'd robbed her so I am not sure it is analagous with stories of people having psychos come right up to them and attack them for no reason other than they're working for the Obama campaign.

[Koga No Goshi]

to me, the "american dream" is being able to reap the benefits of your labor.
if my dad works 3 jobs, and as a result i never really see him much just so he can pay off the bills, keep a roof over my head, pay for my education, and pay for food, he deserves every penny he makes for the sacrifices he makes for his family. i dont want to see his money going to some druggie on welfare who uses it to by drugs.
redistribution of wealth- thats not what our founding fathers had in mind.

I don't want to see the money I helped my employer make being used to open a new office in New Delhi so that we can all be laid off and replaced with labor that costs 1/10th as much, and I don't want the money I pay going to drug addicts who were happy to dodge and take deferrals out of wars when they were young men run the country into deficit starting new wars for younger, poorer, less well connected men to fight.

Life ain't fair huh?

[Koga No Goshi]

Probably none, since they don't pay any income taxes to begin with(about 40% of us don't). Obama isn't giving any income tax cuts either- he's wants to give payroll tax credits, ie: handouts. It's stealing from the rich to give to the poor- Robin Hood would be proud....
Barney Frank outlines what we can expect under the Democrat Congress/presidency.

McCain's tax plans, especially with the cuts to medicare, is stealing from the poor and retired to give to the rich. I fail to see how that is better.

[Fragony]

All tax is theft.

Anyway, http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=fce_1224795896

Is someone being really really stupid or very very smart?

[Louis VI the Fat]

I think the democratic muggers of Pittsburgh need a reminder to stay classy...



CR

All my alarmbells go off. This woman is making this story up or I'll change my name to Louis VI the Hockey Mum, and you can keep me to that.


I must express my disappointment in American politics. Has this election now turned into a pee race* of who is the biggest victim of (often imaginary or even staged!) violence from the other side? Partisanship has reached new lows again. Sheesh.

*To use a LENism

[Ronin]

All my alarmbells go off. This woman is making this story up or I'll change my name to Louis VI the Hockey Mum, and you can keep me to that.


I must express my disappointment in American politics. Has this election now turned into a pee race* of who is the biggest victim of (often imaginary or even staged!) violence from the other side? Partisanship has reached new lows again. Sheesh.

*To use a LENism

My favorite part of the story is that the mugger "demanded $60"...

really?...that´s a pretty particular robber....he doesn´t want everything you got on you...he wants $60 and not a cent extra dammit!!!

I´m with you....unless this is properly substantiated I´m calling shenanigans.

[Fragony]

Sounds a bit like bull indeed, and that doesn't look like a carving. If true it's very irresponsible to use it

[Hooahguy]

If your dad need 3 jobs then he ain't middle class , he is just trying very hard to pretend he is .

nonsense. there are varying degrees of middle class. i mean, if you came to my house you wouldnt think se were low-class.
he needs 3 jobs to pay for the ridiculous property/state taxes we pay where i live.
long live the Fair Tax!