How doomed am I?

**gosam** · 06-04-2008, 20:47

Yesterday I stated my most enjoyable campaign in a while as a Pontos. I started out by taking Sinope, Nikaia and Byzantion with the starting troops, supported the Seleukids in their war against Pahlava and consolidated my gains for a while.
Few turns later, the Seleukids declare on me and start besieging Amaseia, though they accept peace whenever I offer it.
Needing a better position I move on to take Trapezous and Chersonesos (I figured having a city as far as possible from the seleukids couldn't hurt).
They keep besieging me and accepting peace as soon as I offer it. I make my move and take Galatia and Ipsos. At this point, the cities I took in the first turns are now big enough to support a full stack, maybe two, without falling behind economically.

Now here's the sad part : Two Ptolemaic full stacks show up at Ipsos. The Seleukids no longer accept my peace offer. I t turns out they are allied now.

Do you have any tips on how to handle things? I'm seriously considering cheating to dissolve their alliance, if that's even possible.

**Vorian** · 06-04-2008, 20:49

Time for a migration!

**fenix3279** · 06-04-2008, 20:52

Originally Posted by Vorian

Time for a migration!

That sounds like your answer to everything.

**Vorian** · 06-05-2008, 12:17

Originally Posted by defiant3279

That sounds like your answer to everything.

Guilty

**Flying Pig** · 06-05-2008, 16:13

Let that be a lesson - don't mess with the Koinon! You should probably move out, and fight back in. Or hold and pray, but that rarely works except like a life-support machine. I have fought massive and mighty alliances off on occasion, like all of the vanilla romans [urk!]at once[/urk!] but only with a really productive and fortified state. My advice is, although the brits in 1914 did this, is to bring all of their forces into the field at once in a huge battle, win gloriously and push the frontier. However, this requires a huge army, and the risk is potentially huge

**Dumbass** · 06-05-2008, 17:01

With great risk comes great reward. Blitz the bastards, throw in everything you have, force them back, give them no respite!

**Rilder** · 06-06-2008, 02:42

Originally Posted by Vorian

Guilty

"WERE WINNING"

"&%@#, Were migrating, pack your stuff and move out!!"

**Hax** · 06-06-2008, 12:26

Actually...migrating to the city of Chersonesos is a good idea, from there, capture Pantikapaion and restrengthen your armies. Then come back and crush the Seleucids!

**Tyrfingr** · 06-04-2008, 20:54

Fight to the last man in Anatolia, meanwhile you ship/march your family members to Chersonesos. There you can lick your wounds and recruite armies for an eventual return. That's at least how I would have played it. As soon as I get bored with my Romani campaign I will start a Pontos campaign...

**Olimpian** · 06-04-2008, 21:13

And I thought playing as Pahlava and having AS and Ptoleis allied from 270 onwards is bad...

**Ibrahim** · 06-05-2008, 04:27

give the getians a piece of your mind(a.k.a move to thraike) that way you can train cheap, nasty, but effective drapanai and thraikioi rhomphaiaphoroi... then not even the klerouchon Agema can stop you.