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    Son of a Camel Member anelious phyros's Avatar
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    Default Re: American Socialism

    Well anything extreme will fail some how!
    Like terroist are called extremsist sometimes. You don't here the whole world clapping for them do you?

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    Do you think your government can do a better job of taking care of the people than the people can do for themselves.
    Why does it always come down to this question? Cause personally I think it's ridiculous and hasn't to do with Socialism at all. Socialsim in it's fundaments isn't about the government bossing around for the greater good or anything. Socialism is about caring for people who don't have it as well as you have. It's about protecting them and yourself from becomming victims of others trying to make money.
    Why is the goverment also needed? Well just because of this specific problem. Man is egocentral, man is greedy. If he can become rich, by making others poor. He will usually do it. Then I can only conclude, that it's mad to have people and their coorporations , who have exactly that goal in control of the welfare of others. They don't give about welfare at all, just their pockets. This is why a government can be helpfull.

    Now back to: Do you think your government can do a better job of taking care of the people than the people can do for themselves.
    There's a few problems with this. The governement in socialism (except in extreme versions, communism ect... but this is not like socialsm is in Europe, were talking about moderate democratic socialism.) isn't taking care of you, it just will protect you and possibly help you, so that you can more easily take care of yourself. A person or a family can't be a succesfull lasting economy on it's own. You may work hard all your life, you may earn decently or even better. However one unfortune thing can ruin this. Lets say an illness with a real costly cure. In a socialist healthcare system others will help you pay the cost. But then you think why should the others, well because the others will get the same benefits. It's just charing when times are good, and recieving back what you get when times are worse. The more persons take care after each others wealth fare, the more stable you wealth fare is. Just as a large economy is more stable than a tiny one, a socialist health care system is in overall better than a personal care system. Except for the very rich, and I guess this is where the problem lies in America. Cause like I said if a person can enrich himself of another person, he will.

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