questions of MP construction

[TechnoMage of Shadows]

i understand "talking off the top of my head" only too well, neither of you have been at all vague,
it is obvious you know the subject very well.


on a side note:-
the org's file download system has become a nightmare,
trying to find the old utilities is, well the only polite thing to say is impossible.
Many have vanished from 3Ddownloads, and even getting to the 3D (Atomic) downloads is challenging.

I also noted some mods have vanished from 3D as well,
War of the Roses for Medieval1 for example - completely gone from the downloads area.

The new system "claims" to have 5 pages in the tools download area, yet all those "pages" display the same set of categories, and it is slow to load pages. Not as slow as being forced to wait the 5 minutes at 3D/Atomic.

I too have been having to go to my external data storage to find tools,
but a stack of cd's a meter high is not an efficient method of storing data for fast retrieval...especially when one counted on the org always having them in download and thus has not catalogued each CD
(I had an ancient but efficient archivist catalogue tool around here somewhere, i can see the need for it again... will send the elves to delve for it...)

[Puzz3D]

Here is a new MP unit prod file carefully created from the beta5 STW_MP10_unit_prod.txt file with the notepad text editor. I've named this STW_MP12_unit_prod.txt. You can edit \campmap\startpos\Samurai_Wars_MP.txt to point to this file.

STW_MP12_unit_prod.rar

[TechnoMage of Shadows]

please test this.

based on Puzz new unit prod,
- added the religion Pagan to samurai units - allows Hoganji to have units,
- fixed references to the new cav bifs,
- fixed references to the new ninja bifs.

tested stable in 3v3 (6 players)

requires Samurai Warlords Single Player version 8 (THIS fix makes that an MP version!)
Samurai_Warlords_MP_v8.2k8 (in the org's medieval beta file upload area

and here is a mildly different version of the startpos file,
with Tokugawa, Taira and a couple of other clans that were "latent", they work fine, so 29 clans now
beta8.2k8.1.zip


BUT the fight animation for heavy cav has a mistyped reference set in one of its actions pages,
(i think R'as will know how to fix that?) there may be one or two others, but thats all i spotted.

[Puzz3D]

Many thanks TechnoMage of Shadows. I'm not sure how soon we can get this tested online. Previous online tests of the beta8 unit prod with beta 5 were inconclusive because we didn't have enough players in the test.

requires Samurai Warlords Single Player version 8 (THIS fix makes that an MP version!)
Samurai_Warlords_MP_v8.2k8 (in the org's medieval beta file upload area

Just to clarify, SW beta8 supports both singleplayer and multiplayer using two different unit_prod files by the player selecting either the "smap_8" or "Samurai_Wars_MP" era. I can modifiy the unit stats in this new multiplayer unit prod file to generate the required singleplayer unit_prod file for the next beta9 version of the mod.

[TechnoMage of Shadows]

i thought mp in beta 8 desynced, hence my experiments - to get the new clans into MP

i cannot look at anything this moment,
does the new unit prod point at the correct horse anims?
samhorse and samhorse2 changed from looking at custom(x) to armhorse - or similar,
check if the change IS in the file i modified

[Puzz3D]

i thought mp in beta 8 desynced, hence my experiments - to get the new clans into MP

MP in beta 8 does desync when playing battles with more than 2 players.

i cannot look at anything this moment,
does the new unit prod point at the correct horse anims?
samhorse and samhorse2 changed from looking at custom(x) to armhorse - or similar,
check if the change IS in the file i modified

That was an error of omission on my part when editing the beta5 unit prod last night. I'll fix it.

"CUSTOM9, NO, YES" ALL_FACTIONS changed to "ARMHORSE, YES, YES" NO_FACTION

The SP unit prod will require extensive work if a new one is going to be developed from the MP unit prod because many changes were made to it since beta5.

Edit: I uploaded the fixed version. Same filename as before:

STW_MP12_unit_prod.rar

[TechnoMage of Shadows]

thanks, i'll adjust that upload later

is there a show error command line switch? (-showerr is not it)